The next manager appointment (new thread)

[mccole]

I think the Roma managerial interviews held in London was a good indication of what manager they would look to IF they sack Dyche.

Allegri - I think would not be interested in a move unless a spectacular deal is offered

Terzic - Very interesting. A new young manager who has worked at the top level but with our current squad I don't we would see the best of him given he likes to play high intensity and possession based football which I think all Everton fans wants to see. He would be a fan favourite for sure.

Sarri - I don't see him at Everton. He is very disruptive and I think we need to find some calm right now.

Mancini - Again excellent at City and Inter but needs a huge deal with huge money which I don't think we can afford.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Backed massively at Inter to succeed and due to this buying titles City hired him.

Since then only been 1-2 years at any club. Won against England in the final but also failed to qualify for a tournament & flopped in Saudi.

Potter or McKenna for me though an Italian manager could be interesting.

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;

Potter lost more than he won at Brighton.

They were on 40 points with Houghton.

He earned 41 points, then another 41 points then an impressive 51 (A mighty 1 win above our last season 48) but my view is he benefitted from Brighton's setup. A symptom, rather than cause.

Maybe I'm being harsh, but he'd have been long hounded out by Everton before his 3rd season there.

Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

 

[Magus]

I think the Roma managerial interviews held in London was a good indication of what manager they would look to IF they sack Dyche.

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Allegri - I think would not be interested in a move unless a spectacular deal is offered

Terzic - Very interesting. A new young manager who has worked at the top level but with our current squad I don't we would see the best of him given he likes to play high intensity and possession based football which I think all Everton fans wants to see. He would be a fan favourite for sure.

Sarri - I don't see him at Everton. He is very disruptive and I think we need to find some calm right now.

Mancini - Again excellent at City and Inter but needs a huge deal with huge money which I don't think we can afford.

I wonder why they couldn't find a deal with Terzic - surely the issues would be the same or worse with us - but he is the only one I am interested in from that list. Italian managers never seem to last long in England, and a couple of these seem over the hill to me.

 

[Evertonthat]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

I'd agree on Potter. Also, just to add that he's still being paid 200k per week by Chelsea. There's zero chance he will give that up for a new managers job unless he's paid the same (or more). He will get a new job once his Chelsea cash cow has gone away.

 

[Delargeinho]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

Mancini is a good manager, will depend on his wage, as he was the best paid manager itw at RSA.

Wouldn't want Potter either, you probably would improve more on the pitch than under Dyche within 3 years, but knowing DFG are very impatient, it's not what I really want to see here and should be appointed.

 

[brieverton]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

Wasn't aware of those stats and it just goes to show. Some managers, with the aid of the media probably, can cultivate an image of themselves that oversells their ability and impact. His successors at Brighton have all done a better job as well so yes the structure there is a big reason for their success.

I do think he will be in the conversation for the job here though. That's just a hunch. You would want to see the Friedkins listen to advice and have their homework done. Potters stats at Brighton are exactly the sort of data they should be made aware of. These decisions should be data-driven always.

 

[BrendanGOT]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

Wouldn't have Potter near us myself. Mancini would be great, don't understand anyone turning their nose up at that appointment. Alot less trophies but Sarri would be great too in my opinion.

 

[Lanolin]

Wasn't aware of those stats and it just goes to show. Some managers, with the aid of the media probably, can cultivate an image of themselves that oversells their ability and impact. His successors at Brighton have all done a better job as well so yes the structure there is a big reason for their success.

I do think he will be in the conversation for the job here though. That's just a hunch. You would want to see the Friedkins listen to advice and have their homework done. Potters stats at Brighton are exactly the sort of data they should be made aware of. These decisions should be data-driven always.

I think Potter did a good job at Brighton and the stats don't tell the full story. It's the same sort of thing as Dyche really, you can look at his win percentages here and at Burnley and decide that he must be completely useless, but the context of the two situations means you have to reassess that slightly. I do think Potter would be a risk though, again for the same reason as Dyche - we know he can do a certain type of job well, but there is a question mark over whether he is able to push past that. I wouldn't be totally against Potter but he wouldn't be my first choice.

 

[Bryan+]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

He’s absolutely turd and made up he got shown for what he was at Chelsea.

 

[Ruairi77]

potter also reacted very poorly to some mild BHA fans criticism.
I doubt he'd fare too well during a lean spell here.

 

[kenada_blue]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

Can't just be arguing that due to his win percentage he's poor. He builds sides and a way of playing that's a modern approach over a long period. Got a Swedish minnows promotion and European football. Gave Brighton a stable platform for Di Zerbi afterwards...who Dyche equalled points wise to last season yet wed have Di Zerbi over Dyche wouldn't we?

Chelsea was difficult - even Poch found that out. But he still got them into the quarters of the Champions League.

Bottom line is what the owners are really looking for. Is it gonna be a steady build (someone like Potter would IMO be a very good appointment) or aim straight away to challenge at the top 6-7 and Europe with backing (So Mancini for example would fit that).

 

[Exeter_Gently]

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Top European manager.
Samuele Alardycii

If I had a pound everytime I've seen his post I'd have 17 quid.

 

[MikeH72]

31% win rate at Brighton, Potter.

Thats less than Dyche at Burnley, and Everton.

His points per game at Chelsea is equal to Dyche at Everton.

Shared my thoughts on him;



Massively overrated.

Mancini has won about 15 trophies as manager. World away from every manager linked/shortlisted with us for a long time.

[Edit] As for Mancini 'needs' money. All managers do. And guess what? Everton need to spend money - the squad is on it's arse and has had the least investment over the last 3-4 years in the league.

Didn’t Potter lose his best players every year and have to operate on a positive net spend at Brighton? Seeing as this is apparently context we must apply to Dyche then I think it’s only fair we do the same for Potter.

 

[evertondotcom]

I’m shocked to read Evertonians who have had to ensure Sean Dyche are turning their noses up at Graham Potter or Mancini.

Mental

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Can't just be arguing that due to his win percentage he's poor. He builds sides and a way of playing that's a modern approach over a long period. Got a Swedish minnows promotion and European football. Gave Brighton a stable platform for Di Zerbi afterwards...who Dyche equalled points wise to last season yet wed have Di Zerbi over Dyche wouldn't we?

Chelsea was difficult - even Poch found that out. But he still got them into the quarters of the Champions League.

Bottom line is what the owners are really looking for. Is it gonna be a steady build (someone like Potter would IMO be a very good appointment) or aim straight away to challenge at the top 6-7 and Europe with backing (So Mancini for example would fit that).

As I said, Houghton was sacked for finishing on 40 points.

Potter come in. 1st season. 41 points. 2nd season. 41 points.

Sure, the 51 points in his third season was pretty good, but not amazing - they spent a good few bob in that time as well.

Didn’t Potter lose his best players every year and have to operate on a positive net spend at Brighton? Seeing as this is apparently context we must apply to Dyche then I think it’s only fair we do the same for Potter.

News to me?

I've just sense checked here and Potter spent just short of £100m net his first 2 seasons as he took Brighton from Houghtons 40 points to 41 points 19/20 and 41 points in 20/21.

Even in his last summer/season 21, with a big sale in Ben White, they still pretty much broke even that window as they spent.

So after sales he spent just short of £100m, and brought in 28 players.