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The sale of Fellaini

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wasnt just the wigan game, the way he has been saying he wants to play elsewhere has been disgusting, he has said it at least half a dozen times, If someone like rooney did this even once ferguson would deal with him.
 
dixie7 said:
wasnt just the wigan game, the way he has been saying he wants to play elsewhere has been disgusting, he has said it at least half a dozen times, If someone like rooney did this even once ferguson would deal with him.
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Has he actually said it half a dozen times, or are the papers just recycling quotes.
 
http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/time-to-go-marouane/

Incredibly interesting read this. Always respect this guys views, does an excellent job previewing games and primarily writes on statistics.

Firstly, this isn’t a knee jerk reaction to the truly dire events which un-folded at Goodison Park at the weekend. I drafted this a month or so ago but have been too bone idle to get it into some kind of shape for public consumption. Nor is this an anti-Fellaini rant; I don’t mind him as a player and think he’s been a useful performer in the side during his 4 ½ year spell on Merseyside. However, his overall impact on the side has been over-hyped, particularly this season.

For a while now, the feeling generally given off by the Belgian and his ‘camp’ is that life at Goodison is as welcome as a night in the company of James Corden. The booing vs Wigan was partly down to him turning his back on the play and his usual wayward passing but also a signal of the growing resentment many fans feel towards him for this continued lack of commitment and positioning for a move away from the club. It’s worth noting that in the two seasons prior to last season the side had a better winning record with Fellaini not in the side.

In terms of his contribution on the pitch, the negative impact of his game on Jelavic was documented in this piece last week and there is little doubt there is limited chemistry between the duo with just one assist for Fellaini this year for his misfiring forward partner. Post match on Saturday, Martinez basically said Wigan’s plan was to stop us playing this long style at the source by pressing our full backs….a plan that was executed ruthlessly. One of the most fluid games we have played since the post new year slump was the first half vs West Brom when Fellaini played deeper and the attacking midfield trio of Osman, Mirallas and Pienaar interchanged fluidly to great effect.

Perhaps a more classic ‘number ten’ type player who can supply Jelavic could cure the Croatian’s alarming slump in front of goal.

As an anchor midfielder he is very decent at regaining possession and can shield the ball very well, but actually on the ball he is limited. He hasn’t got the ability in his locker to distribute long from deep positions like Gibson, nor is he capable of playing an incisive through pass like Steven Pienaar in the advanced midfielder role.

His unorthodox style in what is a different twist on the classic number ten role enables us an outlet and link man in the final third who can ‘get in peoples faces’ when he is arsed, which isn’t often. However, he is no way a dynamic forward and his influence is often easy to negate, as the limited Phil Jones recently showed. With the exception of United he has regularly struggled to make an impact in the final third against any of our big rivals in years gone by.

That be said, he gives us a credible ‘Plan B’ option of going long when Plan A of engineering 2 v 1 ‘s down the flanks either isn’t on or isn’t working. He is also more adept as a ‘back to goal’ target man than say Cahill, as his volume of touches (roughly double) in the opposing half compared to the Aussie testifies. However, we can often over burden this route and it can be all too predictable at times.

Mentality wise, the Belgian is incredibly vulnerable and his attitude lately quite frankly stinks the place out. The Stoke red card was a complete joke and it wasn’t the first time this season his temperament has been called into question. In countless other games – particularly on the road – at the likes of Wigan and West Brom he has been dropped deeper to mitigate the risk of him getting sent off for retaliation.

In Saturday’s game he mentally through the towel in early and was again taken out of the firing line to prevent a probable second yellow and another suspension. In the WBA and Norwich games his focus and concentration deteriorated alarmingly as a result of the physical questions asked by old school groc opponents such as Caldwell and Bradley Johnson and as a consequence his set piece marking late on in these games cost us vital goals, a trick he also served up in the fa cup surrender to Liverpool last season. Fellaini is supposed to be our big game player but seems unable to do the business against even the most limited operatives in the division. Since January he has been going through the motions and is now more so a liability, a human time-bomb waiting to blow.

From a financial point of view, it’s unlikely we could afford to keep him anyway. Signing contracts are no longer enough for the modern day player who now also crave a mid contract loyalty bonus in the form of a pay rise otherwise they will bugger off to someone who will pay. The racist from across the park is at least pretending he wants to hang around.

Fellaini’s current deal of £75,000 per week runs for another 3 seasons but with him looking for a bump-up, if he is forced to have to carry on his personal hell playing for Everton (poor Marouane) the deal would cost the club around £15.5m from now until til 2016. That’s a frightening amount to spend on a limited player only to be told on a daily basis by him, his annoying arl fella or his gimp agent that he wants to play for a gang of absolute weapons who can give him what he craves – Champions League football – or in other words a lorry load of £50 notes. If a deal was done it would equate to (including wages saved) the tune of nearly £40m in the club coffers, or three decent players….but that’s a big ‘if’. Personally I’d rather we took the money and invested in some younger players keen to make their mark on the game, a bit like when Fellaini first rocked up on these shores.

Whether there will quite be the stampede for his services remains to be seen as there is more than a hint of ‘jack of all trades master of none’ about his overall play.

Do you remember the Fellaini that dominated midfield against Arsenal or Chelsea? Me neither.

Would Chelsea really spend £25m on a midfielder cum second forward and hit long balls up to him when they could afford to have a specialist in each position? It’s clearly unlikely.

Who we replace him with will be interesting and will probably depend on who is in the Toffee’s dugout next season. If Moyes stays he will want someone like for like I’d imagine, whereas a new boss may be inclined to go for a more classic second forward who unlike Fellaini is better with his feet than his head.
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Bigmaclad said:
http://theexecutionersbong.wordpress.com/2013/03/11/time-to-go-marouane/

Incredibly interesting read this. Always respect this guys views, does an excellent job previewing games and primarily writes on statistics.
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It is a good read but it only reflects what I've repeatedly said for months.

Moyes doesn't seem to understand the attacking mid spot is the most important in the modern game, and yet he persists in playing people there who have very little technical ability. No other team in the league plays a target man there, and for bloody good reason too. Moyes will never change his ways on this one, I'm afraid.
 
[video=youtube;mZFuxC1bdUk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFuxC1bdUk[/video]

Some of the skills and passing in that video are ridiculous considering prior to this season he was never known for either.
 

him up top worked at the back end of last season and at the start of this because it was something different. It hasn't worked for a long while now and should have been scrapped long ago. some of that article makes sence, but some of it's wrong. No chelsea wouldn't play him as an ACM, but that's not what they'd buy him for - he's a much better option than john obi mikel and lampard may be gone - that's why they'd buy him - because he's quality in a position they are weakest at.

Felli's attitude stank, but one bad game and i think some have gone a bit OTT tbh. he was obviously as disapointed as most of us that our season has quickly turned very sour - the guy has ambition. not that that's an excuse for not trying, just think he was pissed off rather than didnt care
 
toffeejack said:
him up top worked at the back end of last season and at the start of this because it was something different. It hasn't worked for a long while now and should have been scrapped long ago. some of that article makes sence, but some of it's wrong. No chelsea wouldn't play him as an ACM, but that's not what they'd buy him for - he's a much better option than john obi mikel and lampard may be gone - that's why they'd buy him - because he's quality in a position they are weakest at.

Felli's attitude stank, but one bad game and i think some have gone a bit OTT tbh. he was obviously as disapointed as most of us that our season has quickly turned very sour - the guy has ambition. not that that's an excuse for not trying, just think he was pissed off rather than didnt care
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He's one player who's value is probably greater than what he's worth to us as a team. Easily replaced with a real No10.
 
Stend said:
He's one player who's value is probably greater than what he's worth to us as a team. Easily replaced with a real No10.
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he's our top scorer and in many people's opinion our best player, he's to an extent carried us this season. and this is all being achieved when he's out of position. The only reason i'm happy for him to go is the hope we could actually improve our team. i.e. sell for £25m, bring in 3 new first teamers.

but 3 first teamers who can step into the team - not what that article says by bringing in a few youngsters in the hope of selling them for a profit - not working well for arsenal is it?
 
toffeejack said:
he's our top scorer and in many people's opinion our best player, he's to an extent carried us this season. and this is all being achieved when he's out of position. The only reason i'm happy for him to go is the hope we could actually improve our team. i.e. sell for £25m, bring in 3 new first teamers.

but 3 first teamers who can step into the team - not what that article says by bringing in a few youngsters in the hope of selling them for a profit - not working well for arsenal is it?
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He's scored as many goals as Cahill ever did in that Role. He hasn't exactly hit the 20 mark. Cahill did a lot more in that role aswell, he ran his socks of all game. Him playing there has proved we don't really need him midfield either so when he goes there will be no gaping hole to replace.

As I said a real number 10 who will score 10-15 a season and assist another 10 will slot into that position no problem. I don't buy, he's carried us. He hasn't. He's scored a few goals just like Cahill did he's been no better.
 

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