The summer 2013 Everton transfer rumourZ thread

[somuchfun]

Well I think you'll find a lot of people in here think he did look good last season and theres no reason to think he wont play as well or even better next season. His game isnt about pace so losing that doesnt make a difference to him, hes a clever player, he plays passes nobody else in our squad could see and he makes Baines double the player he is (no disrespect to Bainesy).

Just out of interest who do you consider to be our better players? Because id have pienaar up there with mirallas, felli, baines, jagielka

He looked knackered since maybe two months in to the season and never recovered. When you see an older player strugling with physical aspects of the game you get worried. Also what I felt was his tiredness or maybe just disinterest? was the thing letting his game down. The squad we have now is known for it's hard working ethics and specially with his role supporting Baines I can't really see us letting him do less work. He's a technical player albeit limited to dribbling but I'd have him on my five a side team but I don't think that in his current role he's that important to the team.

But what I said to start this whole conversation started was that Moyes signed him at 30 for 4.5 and that it was a high risk play or maybe a necessity to stabilize the squad and at the moment it looks that he is effectively our top earner when you count in the 20k per week from his fee (not counting in agent fees etc which'll prolly be 5k more a week) but looks like he might struggle to get on to next seasons starting lineup not to mention the fact that he'll get worse by the end of his contract.

So I don't see him as a that much of an influence on the pitch anymore and I think he was an expensive move and that with Kone touted £5m at 29 yrs there's also a similiar risk albeit I can't see him getting the same wages as Pienaar but on the other hand I'm not sure if he'll start each week either.

 

[Neiler]

Kone and Alcaraz add numbers to the squad for me, depth and dealing better with fatiuqe in certain positions are a priority. Im not that pushed on Alcaraz but if Jonny H goes and we free up a fee and wages id rather have him on the bench then someone on 55k a week. But i like Kone, there arent many squads in the PL that wouldnt benifit from a forward capable of 10+ and half again in assists, hes a clever player with pace and his movement on the last man and in terms of making space is quite good, i think he could do well in a team who has the majority of pocession and make more chances then wigan.

 

[blue to the bone]

Of these potential signings Alcaraz on a free is a no brainer. Experienced centre half and no fee. Adds to squad depth.
Kone may be a bit expensive at 29 but he can score goals which our strikers struggled to do last season.
Mcgeady no way for me. Watch him for Ireland and never impresses. Final ball More often than not is poor. Rather take a punt on Redmond for less money

 

[Mogsy_Efc]

I would be.

They are players who neither improve the first team nor are young enough to significantly improve as players.

Total waste of our VERY limited finances.

However they've not signed yet so I shall leave the hissy fit for another time.

Who would you rather have coming on from the bench when were 2-0 down to Southampton mate? (Jelavic injured) Naismith or Kone? Case closed.

 

[Whitty]

Who would you rather have coming on from the bench when were 2-0 down to Southampton mate? (Jelavic injured) Naismith or Kone? Case closed.

Case closed? So we wouldn't spend the money it'd cost to buy Kone & McGeady on anyone else? It's these players or no one?

 

[Furey1878]

I do agree but can't help but feel that Kev would struggle up top in the prem. I just think he's a bit lightweight. Also if we play him up top, there is no one with any ariel threat in the box (providing we got Honda to sit behind striker.) if we do need to resort launching it in the box.

I'm hoping we play a 4-3-3 under Martinez, because then I'd say keep Kev on the wing. Don't think he should play as a box-to-box right-mid like he has been this season though.

Ahhh Honda...

 

[VentureBrosEFC]

We need to get a decent winger first IMO mate. Kev's preferred position is a striker and Pienarr's on the decline and could be moved inside. Oviedo's preferred position is Left Back and I'm a better Right Winger than Steven Naismith.

If we don't sell Fellaini then our 2nd priority is a striker IMO.

Can someone please explain this to me? Is there an interview where he said this? I watch basically every CL game because a online service I have allows me to watch on delay and I saw all of Olympiakos's games the season before we signed him and he was on the left wing every single time. To me that is his best position being able to cut in from wide.

 

[paulbefc]

We might get the signings you're looking for yet. When Fellaini goes we're going to need to use that cash to get a couple in: one to replace Fellaini but who has a bit more pace from cm than we have currently, another to go with Kone, if we can shift Jelavic or Vic out (although I'd prefer to retain Victor as he can be a handful if you need to switch to a more direct game).

If we dont get those players we all want though, who's fault will that be really? We all knew who to point the finger at for bargain basement signings when Moyes was here and it hasn't suddenly changed overnight.

All complaints directed to: Billy Liar, Shaftesbury Avenue, West London.

Aye, it's a shame due to our half-arsed board we'll have to sell a special player to buy one, even with a new manager coming in who needs backing.

Still, I look at the prices of McGeady and Kone and the wages they'll probably command and think there's better out there. Mcgeady would be £4m and he'll probably want at least £40k a week. It's not like there's any chance we've exhausted our options as the window's not even opened yet. I would be concerned if RM thought McGeady is a worthwhile deal. On our budget, that size of outlay suggests "important first-team player" status. Obviously you can't rule out the possibility that he will be a success, but the lid's got serious limits to his abilities.

 

[davek]

I would be.

They are players who neither improve the first team nor are young enough to significantly improve as players.

Total waste of our VERY limited finances.

However they've not signed yet so I shall leave the hissy fit for another time.

Putting a corner flag at CB would be an improvement on Heitinga. And of course, how could Kone be seen as an improvement on the free-scoring Jelavic?

Really mate, I know you're upset that Moyes has gone, but you've already started your hissy fit by the sound of things if you seriously are backing up those player comparisons up.

 

[Yeldah]

Can't help but feel we are being left behind. Teams in relagation battle last year are bringing in better quality than us. I can't help but feel that this is because of all this contract ending [Poor language removed] up and Martinez being away. This surely is slowing us down. If Swansea do sign Bony I will feel sick. We need to splash cash on a striker.

OPINION...Bill has decided that we will reduce our debt with the extra TV money.

Reasons - due to Felli's release clause not been triggered by Arsenal [media], we have no "spare" money [last night Bill said that no shareholder will put money into Everton]. The cash we are saving in wages [Neville, Hitz etc] we have "put aside" for Baines new and improved contract [Baines saying that he cannot wait to get started with Robert].

In summary, if Felli does not leave, and Baines signs a contract extension, we can expect very little movement in the transfer market, and that will only happen if we can convince the Banks to extend our credit facility. So it does not matter that Robert is not here...there is no money...and hence, there will be no "splashing of the cash" on a striker, or anybody else of significance...

 

[TheFinnFan]

If we close these 3 next monday im ok with that!
Those will not be Bobbys last signings.

 

[Furey1878]

Can someone please explain this to me? Is there an interview where he said this? I watch basically every CL game because a online service I have allows me to watch on delay and I saw all of Olympiakos's games the season before we signed him and he was on the left wing every single time. To me that is his best position being able to cut in from wide.

I'm not gonna lie, I was going off of Fifa 12 and 13 were he was a striker. I've just said in another reply to Mogsy though that I'd play him on the wing in a 4-3-3 setup, like he did at Olympiakos. He should be on the wing of a front 3, not a box-to-box wide midfielder.

 

[Mogsy_Efc]

Case closed? So we wouldn't spend the money it'd cost to buy Kone & McGeady on anyone else? It's these players or no one?

I didn't mention McGeady mate. I'm trying to get across the point Mart was explaining. They are going to be squad players, we complain that we have the smallest squad in the prem but when Martinez tries to bring in players who he already knows and would be used to his play style already people treat it like the end of the world. They won't need time to adjust to his play style, Alcaraz is on a free and not the worst player ever and Kone can score if he is needed from the bench as seen from last season. Not saying Kone is the player I would choose but Martinez knows him well, sees something in him and as long as we bring a big name striker in with him, I would rather see him coming off the bench than Naismith.

 

[Timak]

Who would you rather have coming on from the bench when were 2-0 down to Southampton mate? (Jelavic injured) Naismith or Kone? Case closed.

Moyes singed Mirallas for £5m last summer.

I'd rather a player of his ability and financial upside then waste it on the likes of Kone.

 

[davek]

Aye, it's a shame due to our half-arsed board we'll have to sell a special player to buy one, even with a new manager coming in who needs backing.

Still, I look at the prices of McGeady and Kone and the wages they'll probably command and think there's better out there. Mcgeady would be £4m and he'll probably want at least £40k a week. It's not like there's any chance we've exhausted our options as the window's not even opened yet. I would be concerned if RM thought McGeady is a worthwhile deal. On our budget, that size of outlay suggests "important first-team player" status. Obviously you can't rule out the possibility that he will be a success, but the lid's got serious limits to his abilities.

Yes, I agree on McGeady. He certainly wouldn't be my first choice either.

I know it's not what you want to hear, but we have to trust the new manager on these purchases. His arse is on the line and presumably he thinks they can come in and do a job in his system.