The summer 2013 Everton transfer rumourZ thread

[Great Dane]

Problem for me is RM seems to be going for quantity over quality whereas we have thrived imo in using our limited resources on one or two good 1st team signings if we don't bring in a top class signing ill be worried

Spurs: paulinho/chadli
Swansea: bony
Liverpool: mignolet
Sunderland: Italian fella
Arsenal: suarez/higuain whoever it will be

I agree that it's different strategy than we're used to, but it could work. For many years we have said that our squad is too small, RM has addressed that. If you buy 3 players at say a £1 m. each one of them might turn out to be a lot more valuable and will click with the team.

The teams you mention have more money than us - even Swansea it appears - and can therefore target that one key player.

 

[Zatara]

Because of the difference in ability?

Both youth internationals....both have atood out obviously

 

[Librarian]

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2013/everton-in-negotiations-over-mory-kone/

After being in contact with Lorient centre-back Bruno Ecuele Manga, Everton appear to have stayed in the French market in their chase for a new defender and have turned to highly rated Le Mans 19 year old Mory Kone.

Reports this morning from French outlets were that Everton had made a bid in the region of €1 Million for the player and we understand that no fee has been agreed as yet. Everton are discussing a possible fee with the French side and Le Mans are likely to be willing to sell for under €1.2 Million euros. They are also discussing a contract with the player, but are unwilling to commit to anything as yet and so far they are unsure that they really want to sign the player.

Nevertheless, expect movement on this one shortly and we shall keep you updated when we can.

Mory Kone had a break though season for Le Mans last season and has featured for France U19s. He is likely to be looking for a move elsewhere as Le Mans were relegated to the National last season and he clearly has the ability to be playing in a higher division.

 

[andy4efc]

Paulinho - had a good confed cup, but unproven at club level since he's only played i Serie A in Brazil, not the greastest of leagues.
Chadli - unproven, coming from the dutch league, notorious for flops, not all, but posible.
Bony - Dito
Liverpool; Mignolet - fine, solid goalkeeper. - Aspas? Good La Liga striker, usnure whether he'll make the step across.
Arsenal; Nobody yet.

Point being, we can't afford to splash millions upon millions who is a massive risk to whether he'll succeed or not.

 

[Bluenose1995]

I agree that it's different strategy than we're used to, but it could work. For many years we have said that our squad is too small, RM has addressed that. If you buy 3 players at say a £1 m. each one of them might turn out to be a lot more valuable and will click with the team.

The teams you mention have more money than us - even Swansea it appears - and can therefore target that one key player.

Thats always been the case mate which is why we have brought in good 1 or 2 players on decent wages to tey battle that, whereas the likes of sunderand, west ham, stoke etc may have bigger squads but they dont spend it on quality first team players and I worry RM will take us down this road martinez needs to be smart and follow the path moyes used as its proven to work

 

[Bluenose1995]

Paulinho - had a good confed cup, but unproven at club level since he's only played i Serie A in Brazil, not the greastest of leagues.
Chadli - unproven, coming from the dutch league, notorious for flops, not all, but posible.
Bony - Dito
Liverpool; Mignolet - fine, solid goalkeeper. - Aspas? Good La Liga striker, usnure whether he'll make the step across.
Arsenal; Nobody yet.

Point being, we can't afford to splash millions upon millions who is a massive risk to whether he'll succeed or not.

So what has moyes been doing the past 10 years? As we have always had a small squad but a near quality starting 11 on good wages but RM bring 3-4 lads in for 1-2 mil each is around 6 mil knocked off our limited budget that could of signed us a mirallas etc.

 

[Scottoffee]

Paulinho - had a good confed cup, but unproven at club level since he's only played i Serie A in Brazil, not the greastest of leagues.
Chadli - unproven, coming from the dutch league, notorious for flops, not all, but posible.
Bony - Dito
Liverpool; Mignolet - fine, solid goalkeeper. - Aspas? Good La Liga striker, usnure whether he'll make the step across.
Arsenal; Nobody yet.

Point being, we can't afford to splash millions upon millions who is a massive risk to whether he'll succeed or not.

With Spurs, I dont see where those 2 will fit in without displacing either Sandro / Dembele or Holtby / Lennon - all good or better players I reckon.

Bet Holtby's wishing he'd joined us after all...

Giancherinni or whatever his name is at Sunderland couldn't get a game at Juve and don't think he's any better than Adam Johnson, Larsson or Sessegnon either.

Kone is better than Anichebe and Jelavic (last seasons one at least)
Alcaraz was free and will be on lower wages than Johnny who'll be off (probably for more or less what we paid for Kone)
Defeulou's only a loan (I've read that there's no fee if he plays 50%+ matches)
Robles was needed, will prob be on lower wages than Mucha was and had 1 year left on contract so wouldve been cheap.

So far, so good... Not seeing any millions being lost once Johnny's gone.

 

[bluemangroup]

So what has moyes been doing the past 10 years? As we have always had a small squad but a near quality starting 11 on good wages but RM bring 3-4 lads in for 1-2 mil each is around 6 mil knocked off our limited budget that could of signed us a mirallas etc.

We need bodies though. Everyone will want the big signing, but we have a tiny squad and it needed addressing. We have done that and can maybe look to more expensive options. This lads price isn't going to be the difference between a big signing and failing, so a million knocked off isn't going to hurt that much.

 

[Maestro Haze]

So what has moyes been doing the past 10 years? As we have always had a small squad but a near quality starting 11 on good wages but RM bring 3-4 lads in for 1-2 mil each is around 6 mil knocked off our limited budget that could of signed us a mirallas etc.

What are you saying though? That we spend our budget on one player then get a load of freebies?

Not thanks, I'd much rather do what Martinez is doing. He's also going the right direction, looking at youth very seriously and this french lad proves that.

He'll need to assess those players who could step up, giving them a chance to show their worth. That's going to take us until the end of pre-season. He's the manager, he knows best.

 

[Bluenose1995]

We need bodies though. Everyone will want the big signing, but we have a tiny squad and it needed addressing. We have done that and can maybe look to more expensive options. This lads price isn't going to be the difference between a big signing and failing, so a million knocked off isn't going to hurt that much.

its not bodies though I highly doubt he will get a game or do well hes 19 and one for the future, my issue is we have enough cbs and need a quality signing the fact we havent brought in a guarantees good cm despite it being obvious we are painfully short there/osman not good enough is shocking

 

[Bluenose1995]

What are you saying though? That we spend our budget on one player then get a load of freebies?

Not thanks, I'd much rather do what Martinez is doing. He's also going the right direction, looking at youth very seriously and this french lad proves that.

He'll need to assess those players who could step up, giving them a chance to show their worth. That's going to take us until the end of pre-season. He's the manager, he knows best.

So you would rather do a system differently to what we have done the past 10 years which has seen us regular European challengers despite having a near non existent budget? Alright mate

 

[Maestro Haze]

its not bodies though I highly doubt he will get a game or do well hes 19 and one for the future, my issue is we have enough cbs and need a quality signing the fact we havent brought in a guarantees good cm despite it being obvious we are painfully short there/osman not good enough is shocking

Money, is the answer, it's been said many times already. We can't risk forking out so much as we have so little.

 

[Deco]

So you would rather do a system differently to what we have done the past 10 years which has seen us regular European challengers despite having a near non existent budget? Alright mate

What's been so different this year compared to previous? Apart from us actually signing a few players? Yeah, we need more quality but the boss might be working on that. Give it time.

 

[LITLEJOE]

heard that martinez is going to give youth players more of a chance this year,barkley etc, and has told them not to worry about making mistakes and play without fear...players seem to like what hes about.

 

[Azza]

Paulinho - had a good confed cup, but unproven at club level since he's only played i Serie A in Brazil, not the greastest of leagues.
Chadli - unproven, coming from the dutch league, notorious for flops, not all, but posible.
Bony - Dito
Liverpool; Mignolet - fine, solid goalkeeper. - Aspas? Good La Liga striker, usnure whether he'll make the step across.
Arsenal; Nobody yet.

Point being, we can't afford to splash millions upon millions who is a massive risk to whether he'll succeed or not.

There isn't a risk any more, I was wish people would stop saying this. 9 times out of 10 if you're good enough to consistently play in the highest league in most of Europe or if you're good enough to get double figure caps for your country then you will perform well in the PL or any other league around the world.

When PSG pay £35m for a teenage defender then yeah that's a risk because it's an insane amount of money, but when a player has played at the highest level have international caps then there simply isn't a risk. People who were saying Countinho was a risk for Liverpool which is laughable, so what if he's only 21 he's played in 30 games in Serie A, 15 in La Liga he's going to be good and he gave that spark Liverpool needed. No body on here was saying Mirallas or Fellaini would be a risk when we signed him, just happy that we've spent money, and some times big money so why would Chadli or Bony or Paulinho be a risk for these other teams?