Transfer Rumour Theo Walcott

[hktoffee]

It's about consistency of performance and being robust enough to cope with game after game at that age.

Then we don’t have a crystal ball to know...

 

[BlueIsTheColour]

Not an excuse just the reality that most of us can see
Name me one top drawer player approaching his prime that would sign for us

Cenk Tosun

 

[Michael Tsui]

People have incredibly short memories.

There was once a player, who at the age of 29 had made a blunder in front of the world by simply too slow on the turn, and as he was there virtually forever, was largely seen as already past it. We loaned the said player at the not-so-tender age of 32, and everyone thought we had lost the plot, especially we just let some veteran player in the same summer.





















Turned out that the player, Gareth Barry, did the simple things really well, as well as he was our most intelligent player by a mile. If someone has a good footballing mind and has a professional attitude, 29 years old is just a number if we can adapt our play to his lack of speed.

 

[jackyboy]

I like how quick he is.

 

[wiggum23]

We are all assuming that Koeman doesn't bench Bolasie, just to accommodate Rooney at no.10, just to accomodate Schneiderlin at CDM which meane Siggy on the left, to provide protection for Martina.

Woah, have I been asleep that long....He's Back!

 

[Neiler]

I'm not saying he has no chance at being a success. I'm saying the policy of signing older players with bad injury records for big money (and it is) is flawed.

This club needs sorting out on that score...and a lot more besides.

That i can understand, to be honest and i posted a bit about it yesterday, you have to accept you are going to get fleeced at this stage of development, happened to Chelsea and happened to City, you have to buy the best below you and whats available to you above, the occasional risk on value from abroad, you also have to recruit and work on youth but that is a programme of a number of years.

Both City and Chelsea went through this cycle with their Joe Coles, Duffs and Adebeyors and Santa Cruz's, it took a while and CL. to get Hazards or Agureos. The purpose is to weaken whats around you and bring closer to whats ahead of you and get competitive to the CL. As a long term model i agree with you, but i can rationalise whats happening in terms of making up ground in a short space of time.

In terms of resale value, two factors are key for the amazing inflation in the market and Steve Walsh who actually despite some unfounded criticism does a pretty good job in player trading for me.

Im not overly concerned about youth Walcott being a case in point we have Englands brightest prospect in that position coming through in Lookman and Europes in Henry, the model need time though.

I think you can clearly see for every senior position we have a young alternative developing to make the grade. Our approach is development tierd to balance immediate and future success.

I can understand at times there doesnt some to be the method but i can really see it beyond the immediate, maybe i am naive.

 

[Milkman]

How long does it take to knock out a #WelcomeTheo video? What are they making? Apocalypse Now?

 

[Marius57]

I really hope he hits the ground running.

 

[Kenshin]

I really hope he hits the ground running.

If rather he didn't tbh, bound to get injured doing that

 

[Barnfred 55]

But you've missed the key point there.

He was playing for one of the most attacking sides in the league - not something you could level at Everton very often - and only managed to get into double figures twice in the league.

Your example is a bit daft, particularly as you admit An Everton Player managed 7 times in the same period what Walcott only managed twice .....

Fellaini, not on penalties

Saha, not on penalties

And I would think for Yakubu / Lukaku they would have shared them with Arteta / Baines etc etc

I had considered who he was playing for Orly. Even in that 7 year period for Arsenal he would have finished top scorer once, second highest twice and third highest on another occasion. The other years he only played a handful of games due to injury but still managed to finish 5th highest scorer at worst.

My point, and I probably didn't make it very clearly, is that he isn't and has never been (apart from a very occasional match) their primary focus of attack, and won't be with us either. He's either played as a winger or wide in a 433, and his goal/assist record, even in an attacking free flowing side like Arsenal, is none too shabby for somebody playing in that position. He's been in competition with players like Sanchez, Giroud, Wellbeck, Ozil, Cazorla, Ramsey, Nasri, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Wilshire and Van Persie during that period, so game time has been hard to come by.

I'm assuming that you are against the signing mate. I can understand why and have many concerns myself. But, if I'm honest, I've seen us buy a lot worse over the last 3/4 years. Compare it to Oxlade-Chamberlain who the RS paid well over £30m for. He has 9 premier goals compared to Walcott's 65.

 

[Shipped]

I'd be pretty happy with this..... but......
if we sign Walcott without signing a left back it would be as stupid as, oh I don't know, signing someone like Sigurdsson without signing a striker.

 

[orly]

People have incredibly short memories.

There was once a player, who at the age of 29 had made a blunder in front of the world by simply too slow on the turn, and as he was there virtually forever, was largely seen as already past it. We loaned the said player at the not-so-tender age of 32, and everyone thought we had lost the plot, especially we just let some veteran player in the same summer.





















Turned out that the player, Gareth Barry, did the simple things really well, as well as he was our most intelligent player by a mile. If someone has a good footballing mind and has a professional attitude, 29 years old is just a number if we can adapt our play to his lack of speed.

Loan of 32 year old player in a position we desperately needed vs £20m on a player with questionable drive and a patchy goal scoring record.

Ah yes, absolutely comparable

 

[Timak]

People have incredibly short memories.

There was once a player, who at the age of 29 had made a blunder in front of the world by simply too slow on the turn, and as he was there virtually forever, was largely seen as already past it. We loaned the said player at the not-so-tender age of 32, and everyone thought we had lost the plot, especially we just let some veteran player in the same summer.

Turned out that the player, Gareth Barry, did the simple things really well, as well as he was our most intelligent player by a mile. If someone has a good footballing mind and has a professional attitude, 29 years old is just a number if we can adapt our play to his lack of speed.

But...but...Barry wasn't a pace reliant player and played in a deep midfield defensive role.
If we were signing Fabregas age wouldn't be an issue.
We are signing a player whose main attribute is pace at an age where, in almost all cases, pace declines.

 

[royalblue66]

Has Dave the pen gone on his hols ?

 

[Petit]

If you'd have said that 3 seasons ago heads would fall off, 50m!!! spent in January, he's a fraud that Moshiri though.

Evertonians were creaming themselves when Jelavic turned up in 2012.