Tom Cleverley

[scratchnsurf]

Lets never forget this gem.

https://www.change.org/p/the-fa-ban-tom-cleverley-from-the-world-cup-squad

Tom Cleverley, owner of 13 England caps, six more than Ross Barkley, Adam Lallana and Leon Osman combined, has been regularly selected by Roy Hodgson in his squads without possessing any genuine qualities whatsoever. We believe for the reputation of this proud footballing nation that he should be prevented from participating in this summer's international showcase. Whilst England are considered to disappoint at major tournaments, further embarrassment could be avoided by not having his inept performances undermine the rest of the team's efforts.

I think we need a reading from your toshometer.

 

[bobafro]

... Naismith, Barry, Howard and alcaraz all players who have deserved punting this season to the bench but have been given key roles because they are yes men...

Know them all personally do you?

 

[Goat]

I admitted I never watched McCarthy, I said he was a decent player and would be a cracking buy at abar 5m, I was wrong, but as I say, I never watched him more than 5minutes on MOTD and the games versus us where Wigan got mostly schooled, the cup game apart.

I dont recall commenting on Gibson to be honest, lemme check the vaults.

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/gibbo.49174/#post-1496925

 

[Goat]

I think we need a reading from your toshometer.

Hes not tosh, hes decent, I just personally feel hes not better than anybody we have within the squad.

 

[Goat]

If he was to replace an aging Barry or injury prone Gibson, it wouldnt be an issue, but if he starts taking games off McCarthy or Besic, FFS.

 

[mythbuster]

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/gibbo.49174/#post-1496925

Hahaha. Genius that mate. Or maybe not.

 

[davek]

Naigood out for a few quid to some promoted club who think they're acting astutely (shhhh! dont tell them) > Cleverley in for free.

That's a neat bit of business.

 

[Goat]

Hahaha. Genius that mate. Or maybe not.

Cant really find anything from when he signed or was gonna sign, I think, for once, I kept my mouth shut cos I hadnt really watched him.

 

[Woolly Blue]

I think it is fair to say that Cleverly isnt going to be over hyped is he?

People want us to spend 15 to 20 million on some winger with an exotic name with a fit bird in tow.

Cleverley's half decent,free, but not really an improvement on what we have, so the FM guys can't dazzle us with their knowledge of people we've never heard of previously.

However, Georgina Dorsett is fit as, so I'm totally in favour of anything that causes her to be seen walking down Goodison Rd.

#CleverlyInFFS

 

[mythbuster]

Cant really find anything from when he signed or was gonna sign, I think, for once, I kept my mouth shut cos I hadnt really watched him.

Fair play. At that time, you were probably just delighted we were actually buying somebody.

 

[Goat]

Naigood out for a few quid to some promoted club who think they're acting astutely (shhhh! dont tell them) > Cleverley in for free.

That's a neat bit of business.

Naismith is a different kind of player.

 

[Goat]

Fair play. At that time, you were probably just delighted we were actually buying somebody.

I probably thought at 500k it wasnt worth my time.

 

[Goat]

Oh God yeah, when we signed Gibson we hadnt bought anybody for AGES.

Fair play. At that time, you were probably just delighted we were actually buying somebody.

My point was, most of the time people have no idea how good or bad a player is.

When we showed interest in Moutinho I actually "scouted" him, I watched all of Sportings games for pretty much a whole season, my God, him and Arteta would have won us the league, he would have been so good.

 

[mythbuster]

My point was, most of the time people have no idea how good or bad a player is.

Which was my point all along pudding.

 

[Goat]

Which was my point all along pudding.

And I was sort of agreeing by saying not many people have properly watched Cleverley.

Ive tried to watch as many Villa games as I can, hes been borderline terrible, decent and had a few alright games, nothing special IMO, brief moments of good.