He is.
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Tom Cleverley
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He is.
Hope they do.
We will have ledson coming through next season
I think there comes a point when you have to sit back and accept that when at least four professional managers rate a player that perhaps their collective opinion is a bit more valid than yours. Even if they're not in the top 1%.
Brendan Rodgers said Gerrard was 'excellent' today. I assume that invalidates my opinion that he was anything but?
Martinez also called Kone the 'complete striker'. And signed Alcaraz twice.
Might be surprising this, but managers make mistakes like any other human does.
Darth Toffeeman
Player Valuation: £40m
He did ok today, nothing spectacular but not terrible. Delph was easily the best midfielder on show.
Saying something in an interview is rather different to signing or wanting to sign a player.
Might be surprising this, but managers make mistakes like any other human does.[/QUOTE]
We're not talking about one manager, that's the point. Multiple managers, from different teams, with different opinions of how football should be played have had a strong interest in Cleverley.
That might just be the worst argument I have ever seen anyone make on here.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
No one's ever actually bought him, like.
He looked decent today, and I don't think I'd be against him coming in if I wasn't sure he'd get the Barry treatment and start every game no matter what.
.....he's a good footballer and you can't have too many good footballers.
Bit crazy isn't it? It's like the school of thought that you have to have done something to have an opinion on it. Like you'd have to have made a game to be able to say whether a game is bad or not.
Just poor logic.
You're argument seems to be that any player who is repeatedly bought by professional managers is good enough to be a professional footballer.
Which yes, true. That's what professional means. Someone is paying you to do your job. And people are paying cleverley to do his job.
But what the hell has that got to do with whether he's good enough to get in our first team or is a worthwhile investment compared to who else can be paid with his wages?
Like bob smith who is back up goalkeeper at tranmere has been bought by 4 professional managers, too.
Loads of reviewers gave Assassin's Creed: Unity an almost perfect score. They were professional game reviewers.
In my opinion, the game was absolute gash. But does my opinion not count for anything because a select group of 'professionals' disagree?
You don't have to be something to have an opinion on it. All 20 Premier League managers could have a positive opinion on Cleverley - it doesn't invalidate my opinion one jot.
Same with politics - pretty much every party politician has an opinion that are broadly in line; are we not allowed to disagree with them? Are our opinions on politics automatically wrong because the 'professionals' say different?
We're clearly talking about managers in the Premier League. I would refer you to the post i was originally responding to, Tubey saying he is crap.
Ferguson rated him. Moyes rated him. Martinez rates him to do a job in our side. Sherwood rates him at Villa.
If all of those people think he's good enough for those respective teams it's fairly likely he's not crap, and is worthy of a place in our squad.
this is the biggest fear with martinez right now with this season, bringing cleverly in on a free transfer would actually the pad the squad out nicely, martinez bringing him in and playing him no matter what and alienating other talents is what concerns me
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