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Zara Sultana blames NATO and UK aggression for the invasion of Ukraine. Her mentor has regularly gone in to bat for Russia on the international stage. Traitor is a strong word but it's in the right ballpark.

I'm afraid all of the above is complete nonsense and is causing the sort of culture that allows female MPs to be given death threats.

Corbyn is not the problem here, and neither is the idea we can critically look at what Nato has done.

We really need to dial the rhetoric back, and drop words like "traitor" which are extremely emotive and inevitably lead to violence.

The culture of needlessly targeting Russians for sanctions has helped contribute to this as well.
 
What a pity all the humanitarians virtue-signalling on this thread were so silent as the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014; when the local Nazis massacred Odessans three months later; when the US-controlled regime launched a full-scale military assault on the Donbass in 2015; assassinated & tortured political opposition as a matter of routine; denied the use of the Russian language; and burned down Orthodox churches.

Well, where were you?

Haha that’s just not true tho is it
 
I wonder if anyone on here isn’t using a device partly made in China, conveniently forgetting Tibet and other places they’ve annexed.
Double standards asking for blocks on Unsy…
 

What a pity all the humanitarians virtue-signalling on this thread were so silent as the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014; when the local Nazis massacred Odessans three months later; when the US-controlled regime launched a full-scale military assault on the Donbass in 2015; assassinated & tortured political opposition as a matter of routine; denied the use of the Russian language; and burned down Orthodox churches.

Well, where were you?
Never happened...the BBC didn't cover it or tell people to oppose it.
 
I wonder if anyone on here isn’t using a device partly made in China, conveniently forgetting Tibet and other places they’ve annexed.
Double standards asking for blocks on Unsy…
I have no idea about mobile phones (i hate the things tbh and have a very basic one) but only HP and Dell PC's are made in China, most of the other brands are made in Japan/South Korea
 

Forget Everton FC for a moment and think of it more broadly. Aside from the dubious legality of just freezing people's assets based upon what country they are from-which is what the war mongers want (and it's not just about oligarchs either, there are suggestions afoot to steal money of every Russian person and their family in this country, so the motivator of this is pure xenophobia and nothing to do with perceived oligarchs) it will not help any of the objectives whatsoever.The wealthiest will have already moved their assets, so they won't lose.

Who loses are ordinary people. Ordinary Russian people will be hit hardest by sanctions, as it's always the poorest who pay most in such scenarios. The Ukranian people will likely pay, as it makes finding a peaceful resolution harder to get. And also, it's the people of this city who suffer, who if the stadium falls through lose a fantastic opportunity for inward investment and jobs.

And who are imposing these sanctions. A bunch of utter scumbags, who break every rule under the sun and think they are above any rules and the law. Are people seriously going to let Boris Johnson, lecture us on individuals who break the law? Boris Johnson. Really?

Or how about Joe Biden, the segregationist who sat in the actual inner sanctum of a war mongering government who launched military strikes on multiple countries, most of them unable to defend themselves with even a fraction of what Ukraine has got. Complete bullies.

Or this government, who have just made Tony Blair a Knight. A man who caused death and misery on a scale unrecognisable to anything Putin has ever got close to doing.

These are the people who are involved in making sanctions, because they think some fella who isn't even from Russian, but happens to have some business interests there is beyond the pale? Just to make themselves feel better about themselves, and it allows Johnson to get himself out of the hole of his own law breaking. The same Johnson and Tories who have benefited far more from Russian money than we as a club, or a city ever will, yet they won't renounce their links but think they can sit as judge, jury and executioner over ours.

Honestly, get to [Poor language removed].If people want to call me vermin or whatever else then fine, but seriously have a word. When our politicians and elites stop breaking the law here, partying it up while hundreds of thousands of people are dying, they can start having a go at others.

Until that happens, no sane person should be supporting any sanctions from a bunch of corrupt, detestable rule breakers, sanctions that will be designed to harm the poorest the most. All solely because they want to tub their chests and feel important.
The whole thing stinks of hypocrisy. And calling you 'vermin' for pointing out the realities of all this is abhorrent. People on here who would post kind words on that mental health thread are calling me a 'nutter' and a 'loon' and cant even see how 'kin thick they're being.

My crime, btw, was saying we need to get behind our own club's situation vis-a-vis our ownership (some seem to want to place our club into administration as the BBC tells them to hate people like our owners) and to allow balance in the attribution of blame (banners that profess support for any regime run by a professional 'comedian' and backed by nazi militiamen are not in my name, and we should be able to state that without being disparaged or told to GTF and STFU.
 
Frankly I would put world peace above Everton.
It would be blip in our history if we suffered financially and got relegated and rebuilt.
It would be a stain on our club for the next hundred years if we opposed sanctions
And you think stopping Everton being a functioning football club would attain world peace?
 
I have no idea about mobile phones (i hate the things tbh and have a very basic one) but only HP and Dell PC's are made in China, most of the other brands are made in Japan/South Korea
Assembled in Japan and South Korea. Check where the constituent parts are made.
But of course we’re only focussing on things we see, not what generates the revenue that upholds the regimes.
 
You dont have a clue. The oligarchs are part of the Putin system. Without the oligarchs no Putin!. Putin himself is an oligarch. The Germans almost got his yacht a few days ago in a dock in Hamburg. Kleptocracy all over.He did get it out at the last minute. So the crying about the poor Usmanov is the most ridiculous thing ever!!
You want Everton poor and falling through the divisions?
 

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