Victor Chinedu Anichebe

[BigBlueConk]

I often criticize Vic but I thought he had a good game the other night and tried really hard.

Really well taken goal too.

I just wish he'd stop looking like he wants to pick a fight with the fans whenever he scores.

He's looking out for this 'Bryan' guy.

 

[Brennan]

As a starter, yes. As someone you bring off the bench when you're chasing a game, no there isn't.

That's ridiculous, the other attributes are just as important in the last 10 minutes as they are in the first 80. Anybody could score some of the goals he did last season.

And what about when Jelavic is injured ?

We're paying the lad tens of thousands a week, and he's our backup striker.

He. Is. Not. Good. Enough.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Its not clouding people's judgement. He's come off the bench and scored some goals (one of which was a shot from 2 yards out and one of which was a terrible shot that bounced and took a deflection, and i think one was a header ?) that does not make him good enough. There's more to being a striker than just scoring goals.

It is & yours being one of them, as you've not made any mention of the class finish on Monday, just belittling his other contributions.

He's got 8 goals in his last 19 appearances, with most of them coming off the bench. That's good by anyone's standards & yes, strikers are primarily on the pitch to score goals, it's how they're judged, it's why they're so sought after & expensive - as goals win games - whether they're 30 yard screamers or bounced in off your cock end, they all count the same & good strikers have the knack of being in the right place, at the right time.

Victors stats in the last 12 months suggests he's improved markedly, but some Blues are seemingly intent on ignoring the recent, to concentrate on the past.

 

[Allezfan]

That's ridiculous, the other attributes are just as important in the last 10 minutes as they are in the first 80. Anybody could score some of the goals he did last season.

Then how come they don't? He was second only to Jelavic in goals scored for us last season. If it's that easy how come Saha and Cahill and Straq weren't knocking them in.

 

[Brennan]

It is & yours being one of them, as you've not made any mention of the class finish on Monday, just belittling his other contributions.

He's got 8 goals in his last 19 appearances, with most of them coming off the bench. That's good by anyone's standards & yes, strikers are primarily on the pitch to score goals, it's how they're judged, it's why they're so sought after & expensive - as goals win games - whether they're 30 yard screamers or bounced in off your cock end, they all count the same & good strikers have the knack of being in the right place, at the right time.

Victors stats in the last 12 months suggests he's improved markedly, but some Blues are seemingly intent on ignoring the recent, to concentrate on the past.

So what ? Yes, he scored an okay goal, i'd hardly call it a 'class' finish, but that still doesn't make him good enough.

He's scored goals off the bench, he's still not good enough to be our backup striker.

Then how come they don't? He was second only to Jelavic in goals scored for us last season. If it's that easy how come Saha and Cahill and Straq weren't knocking them in.

So you're saying that because he scored more goals than two players who were utter gash last season, he's good enough ?

 

[Allezfan]

So you're saying that because he scored more goals than two players who were utter gash last season, he's good enough ?

I'm saying eight goals off the bench in 19 games is as good a record as you'll find from a back up striker for a midtable team. If we need a goal we have a player on the bench who's got one in him, now. That's something we've missed in the past and it's something we should be grateful for.

We've put up with Vic for five years of ****. Why should we get rid him of now he's finally come good?

 

[steken1]

You've got crazy high standards if you don't call that a class finish Brennan.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

So what ? Yes, he scored an okay goal, i'd hardly call it a 'class' finish, but that still doesn't make him good enough.

He's scored goals off the bench, he's still not good enough to be our backup striker.

If you can't accept that his goal on Monday was a class finish, then you either know nothing about the game or you're blinded by your hatred of the lad.


If a goal ratio of 8 in 19 (maily sub appearances) isn't goo enough for a stand in striker, then I've no idea who you think should be waming his arse on our bench mate. Drogba perhaps? Oh no, scrub that idea, as he was only a 1 in 3 striker last season, we need better.............

 

[Brennan]

If you can't accept that his goal on Monday was a class finish, then you either know nothing about the game or you're blinded by your hatred of the lad.


If a goal ratio of 8 in 19 (maily sub appearances) isn't goo enough for a stand in striker, then I've no idea who you think should be waming his arse on our bench mate. Drogba perhaps? Oh no, scrub that idea, as he was only a 1 in 3 striker last season, we need better.............

You say i have no clue about football, then you come out with this garbage.

He scored 8 goals. Sound. He's still poor at doing things other than scoring goals. He doesn't move into space well, he doesn't read the game and anticipate through balls or little one twos, he isn't strong enough considering his size, and he doesn't work the defence well enough. As i said, there's a reason why Newcastle had so much more of the ball when Jelavic went off, it's because a lot of the pressure went off their back four with Nikica out of the game.

Vellios could have scored the goals that Anichebe scored last season, the biggest difference is that only one of them is on £20k a week plus.

To say i have 'hatred' of him is ridiculous, i was defending him from people last season who were jumping all over him for not celebrating. I can have an opinion about his abilities as a footballer without hating him, the world is not black and white.

 

[whiteshadow]

He's looking out for this 'Bryan' guy.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

You say i have no clue about football, then you come out with this garbage.

He scored 8 goals. Sound. He's still poor at doing things other than scoring goals. He doesn't move into space well, he doesn't read the game and anticipate through balls or little one twos, he isn't strong enough considering his size, and he doesn't work the defence well enough. As i said, there's a reason why Newcastle had so much more of the ball when Jelavic went off, it's because a lot of the pressure went off their back four with Nikica out of the game.

Vellios could have scored the goals that Anichebe scored last season, the biggest difference is that only one of them is on £20k a week plus.

To say i have 'hatred' of him is ridiculous, i was defending him from people last season who were jumping all over him for not celebrating. I can have an opinion about his abilities as a footballer without hating him, the world is not black and white.

I said your view was either clueless or blinded, if you couldn't bring yourself to accept that his finish on Monday was class - as opposed to a tap in, or a goal "anyone" could have scored. A comment that I stand by, sorry.

As for his all round game, I wasn't talking about his all round game, merely his goalscoring record & that as a STRIKER, that's how he'll be ultimately judged.

I think you're talking pony in trying to suggest that Victor coming on resulted in Newcastle having more of the ball. They changed the game by going 4-4-2 & stretching the game with long balls, with Cisse up front our back 4 had all the time in the world to come out & knock the ball around, once they added Ba they didn't have a second. Victor closed down their back line & keeper as much as Jelavic did, the game changing wasn't down to any lack of effort on his behalf.

As for you defending him last season, I've no idea I wasn't here, I'm just basing my opinion on what you're written here, which comes across as one eyed.

 

[Brennan]

I said your view was either clueless or blinded, if you couldn't bring yourself to accept that his finish on Monday was class - as opposed to a tap in, or a goal "anyone" could have scored. A comment that I stand by, sorry.

As for his all round game, I wasn't talking about his all round game, merely his goalscoring record & that as a STRIKER, that's how he'll be ultimately judged.

I think you're talking pony in trying to suggest that Victor coming on resulted in Newcastle having more of the ball. They changed the game by going 4-4-2 & stretching the game with long balls, with Cisse up front our back 4 had all the time in the world to come out & knock the ball around, once they added Ba they didn't have a second. Victor closed down their back line & keeper as much as Jelavic did, the game changing wasn't down to any lack of effort on his behalf.

As for you defending him last season, I've no idea I wasn't here, I'm just basing my opinion on what you're written here, which comes across as one eyed.

I never said that, i said it was an okay goal, a good goal, it wasn't worth sucking him off for.

It's a discussion about his ability as a player, so if your only contribution is 'hes scored some goals', then that seems a bit pointless to me. Vellios scored some goals too. Some facts:

He has a terrible scoring record over his career
He is not good enough at the game to be our second striker
He is on way more money than Vellios who is just as capable of scoring the goals he has scored
He's had a poor attitude for the majority of his career

I don't see how anybody can say he's good enough to be deserving of a 20k a week contract.

Oh and one last thing. I've seen a few people say 'Well if we'd have won 2-1 then people wouldn't have been slating him', i'd say it's unfair to label people as being that fickle. There were times last season, specifically West Brom away and Sunderland at home when Anichebe scored and we won the game. People still said he wasn't good enough then, regardless of his goals.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

It's a discussion about his ability as a player, so if your only contribution is 'hes scored some goals', then that seems a bit pointless to me. Vellios scored some goals too. Some facts:

He has a terrible scoring record over his career
He is not good enough at the game to be our second striker
He is on way more money than Vellios who is just as capable of scoring the goals he has scored
He's had a poor attitude for the majority of his career

I don't see how anybody can say he's good enough to be deserving of a 20k a week contract.

Oh and one last thing. I've seen a few people say 'Well if we'd have won 2-1 then people wouldn't have been slating him', i'd say it's unfair to label people as being that fickle. There were times last season, specifically West Brom away and Sunderland at home when Anichebe scored and we won the game. People still said he wasn't good enough then, regardless of his goals.

Do you know what a 'fact' is lad?

1. His recent goalscoring record is good, historically it was poor - but in the last year he's turned that round
2. That's subjective opinion & one not shared by Moyes
3. More subjective opinion & Vellios has scored 3 goals in 18 appearances for us, so an opinion with fook all substance
4. Historic & irrelevant to the discussion as to his ability today i.e the present.

As for your last paragraph, revelling in still slating the lad despite doing what he's paid to do as a striker - put the ball in the onion sack. Well done to you & others who've stood by their beliefs & ****ged him off big time, irrelevant of his productivity on the scoresheet. Genius at work.

 

[Slavan]

he has improved since hs long injury.

 

[RFUS]

I can't believe people are saying he's not good enough to be a back up striker.

A back up striker for a team that plays with only one striker needs to come off the bench when needed, and make a difference. He's done that throughout 2012.

So until he stops doing that he's a good enough back up striker for me.