Violence at the games

[Yid4life]

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Put it up anyway.

 

[USABlue]

Theyre all tits. Its that simple. Obviously not all the fans are kicking off but there's quite a bit of idiots from England, russia and france. Could the planning better be? Of course. However people could not be massive massive knobs and show up at a footie tournament pretending it the battle of the bulge. acting hard by throwing plastic chairs and bottles because theyre so unsatisfied with their lives. If fans weren't behaving like animals then the police wouldn't even need to be called.

For example the lack of segregation at the england russia game was poorly planned, however theres plenty of matches were opposing fans peacefully sit together.

Its all just shifting the blame of the fans and on to the organizers. " well they shouldve known better given the violence before the match" thats true but at the same time the fans in the stadium couldve just not thrown flares at each other.

Just embarrassing for all involved

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

I've not been paying proper attention to news reports on this, but is there actually any evidence of English 'fans' starting any trouble?

All I've seen is a video of some lads standing around throwing bottles.... but its obvious something bigger has happened before that has been edited out (for whatever reason)

 

[dandydan]

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Put it up anyway.

I think a few on here should cough up in return for the laughs this mans near killing has given you.

 

[Seathestars]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ial-to-violent-fans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up
A top football official in Moscow has praised the Russian fans involved in violenceover the weekend in Marseille, saying they had defended their country’s honour and should be forgiven.

“I don’t see anything wrong with the fans fighting,” Igor Lebedev wrote on Twitter. “Quite the opposite, well done lads, keep it up!”

Lebedev, who sits on the executive committee of the Russian football union, is an MP from the nationalist Liberal Democratic party and the deputy chairman of the Russian parliament. “I don’t understand those politicians and officials who are criticising our fans. We should defend them, and then we can sort it out when they come home,” Lebedev wrote in a series of tweets. “What happened in Marseille and in other French towns is not the fault of fans, but about the inability of police to organise this kind of event properly.”

Calls to his office went unanswered on Monday, but the Twitter account is believed to be genuine and the sentiments were echoed in comments given to the news website life.ru.

“In nine out of 10 cases, football fans go to games to fight, and that’s normal. The lads defended the honour of their country and did not let English fans desecrate our motherland. We should forgive and understand our fans,” Lebedev told the news agency.

I read this earlier, incredible really.

 

[summerisle]

 

[Lowste]

Glad to see someone on the moderation team posting some important stuff. Not getting shouted out by those irresponsible poster and their narrative of 'English' hooliganism.

When its quite clear that there was a well planned and orchastrated 'Russian attack' in Marseille

'What happened then was a co-ordinated ambush by a couple of hundred Russian “ultras”. They charged into the square from a side-street, some prepared for a fight to the point of wearing gum shields. This was organised hooliganism.'

UEFA not looked into this in anywhere near enough detail.

Everything is organised
Even going back, people knew what time ordinary to get, everybody knew the route and everybody knew to stay together at the final whistle.
What the Russians done wasn't a military precision style operation, it was simply organised....

 

[Yid4life]

I think a few on here should cough up in return for the laughs this mans near killing has given you.

Would be nice. Seen Derby, PNE, Arsenal, Tottenham and Saints amongst others.

£9k now.

 

[rascal]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ial-to-violent-fans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up
A top football official in Moscow has praised the Russian fans involved in violenceover the weekend in Marseille, saying they had defended their country’s honour and should be forgiven.

“I don’t see anything wrong with the fans fighting,” Igor Lebedev wrote on Twitter. “Quite the opposite, well done lads, keep it up!”

Lebedev, who sits on the executive committee of the Russian football union, is an MP from the nationalist Liberal Democratic party and the deputy chairman of the Russian parliament. “I don’t understand those politicians and officials who are criticising our fans. We should defend them, and then we can sort it out when they come home,” Lebedev wrote in a series of tweets. “What happened in Marseille and in other French towns is not the fault of fans, but about the inability of police to organise this kind of event properly.”

Calls to his office went unanswered on Monday, but the Twitter account is believed to be genuine and the sentiments were echoed in comments given to the news website life.ru.

“In nine out of 10 cases, football fans go to games to fight, and that’s normal. The lads defended the honour of their country and did not let English fans desecrate our motherland. We should forgive and understand our fans,” Lebedev told the news agency.

UEFA need to grow some balls and just throw them out of the competition. They are making light of UEFA's condemnation of their behaviour.

 

[ToffeeDan]

Is Fantascruff going the Iceland game?

 

[jal123]

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Put it up anyway.

That's been the 'game' English lads problem, this lad is in his 50s now, the Russian lot are all early 30s or younger I'd guess at the pictures, huge lads who are trained fighters. When this lad was running round with the 6:57 I'm sure they'd have put up a fight, they're too old now and need to realise this and the young lads who follow England aren't going to help them when it does go off, more like stand waving their arms round and throwing bottles.

I don't know if he was looking for trouble, but I do know he was a lad in his day, so up to yous to make your minds up I guess.

Anyway I hope they raise the money they need to get his family out there or pay his bills whilst he can't etc.

 

[Groucho]

UEFA need to grow some balls and just throw them out of the competition. They are making light of UEFA's condemnation of their behaviour.

The fact he says 'I don't see anything wrong with fans fighting' says a lot.

I mean, I'm no England fan, I just want to see and end to stupidity like this at all football matches, full stop.

It's not big and it's not clever.

 

[Groucho]

Theyre all tits. Its that simple. Obviously not all the fans are kicking off but there's quite a bit of idiots from England, russia and france. Could the planning better be? Of course. However people could not be massive massive knobs and show up at a footie tournament pretending it the battle of the bulge. acting hard by throwing plastic chairs and bottles because theyre so unsatisfied with their lives. If fans weren't behaving like animals then the police wouldn't even need to be called.

For example the lack of segregation at the england russia game was poorly planned, however theres plenty of matches were opposing fans peacefully sit together.

Its all just shifting the blame of the fans and on to the organizers. " well they shouldve known better given the violence before the match" thats true but at the same time the fans in the stadium couldve just not thrown flares at each other.

Just embarrassing for all involved

Nail on head right there in the first sentence.

I like football, not watching sweaty idiots spoil for a fight that they can't handle so they can pretend their 'hard', even though the very fact they want to fight means that they're precisely the opposite of 'hard'.

 

[ToffeeDoug]

Is Fantascruff going the Iceland game?

Getting there on his hand and knees.

 

[rascal]

The fact he says 'I don't see anything wrong with fans fighting' says a lot.

I mean, I'm no England fan, I just want to see and end to stupidity like this at all football matches, full stop.

It's not big and it's not clever.

The difference in reaction between England and Russia is extremely telling. England have acted with class and dignity. Russia very much the opposite.