Was it justified to boo Schneiderlin?

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

The player he was at Soton is a shadow of what he is showing for us, so we all know what he can play like.

Happy to pick up his 80/90k not even trying, well we won't have it and now he knows.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

You have to wonder what the manager and his assistants are doing under those circumstances. If they hear and see that they have to at least take it on board in making the changes. Allardyce sounded completely clueless post match what it was all about though.

I reckon Allardyce through him on just to wind us up Dave.

 

[davek]

Yes the boos were were aimed at Schneiderlin and it probably sums up everything that is wrong with the Club at the moment. Schneiderlin gets ripped for a perceived lack of effort and Tom Davies who is a kid who works his nuts off is derided for a lack of quality.

There is an anger within the fan base that is so destructive it is untrue.

Are you saying we're bitter'?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Yes the boos were were aimed at Schneiderlin and it probably sums up everything that is wrong with the Club at the moment. Schneiderlin gets ripped for a perceived lack of effort and Tom Davies who is a kid who works his nuts off is derided for a lack of quality.

There is an anger within the fan base that is so destructive it is untrue.

Davies is absolutely boss, showed some great touches today.

 

[James Patrick]

No, what did it achieve ? Papers now talking more about fans booing than EFC winning. Save it for the pub.

 

[davek]

I reckon Allardyce through him on just to wind us up Dave.

He defo capitalised on it: making himself look like the great player protector throwing an arm around one...pushed him under a bus more like it.

 

[Dabluez]

Fans are entitled to do whatever they like.

The relationship between players and fans isnt what it was, the gulf in wage brackets means 99% of players live in a difference universe now to ordinary folk. Schneiderlin earns more in a week than the average fan would earn in 3 years, if he can’t withstand a few boos he can happily swap jobs with me. Yes he plays for Everton and I get the whole ‘We should never boo our own’ thing but on more than one occasion this season the player in question has clearly not been giving 100%. A lack of ability of confidence fans tolerate but there’s no excuse for lack of effort.

Yes fans are entitled to do what they want but what about supporters, the clue is in the word we are supposed to support the team.

We won 3-1 today and all everyone wants to do is to bitch about basically everything !

 

[Sarnia Kevin]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

What? You don't agree? Well thought out response though lollol

 

[Dabluez]

The player he was at Soton is a shadow of what he is showing for us, so we all know what he can play like.

Happy to pick up his 80/90k not even trying, well we won't have it and now he knows.

Koeman did great at Southampton even Martina did well maybe it isn't about the individuals and it is about how we are utilising people.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

What? You don't agree? Well thought out response though lollol

 

[Saint Domingo]

So what about the Everton crowd printing Howard out leaflets just before he took us to the greatest period of our history.

Proving my point for me. He knew what the players were producing wasn’t good enough. The morale of the story is that the cushion throwers and wall daubers of yesteryear demanded success and Howard had the character to accept that, respond to it, and rise up to that expectation. Now any form of fan expectation is treated like a virus to be quashed by managers or board members desperate notbto be held to any standard except the bare minimum.

Schneiderlin may have been in a bubble before being told by his agent he’s a top midfielder and being fawned over by Allardyce. He’s now under no illusion how his performances are really being judged. Cannot see anything wrong with this.

If you’re against a crowd that boos you’re against a crowd that cheers as simple as that.

 

[PKwalnuts]

Booing a player that doesn’t give a fat one for us or this club we love won’t ever be something I’d feel embarrassed about.

I didn’t boo. I laughed at the fact some did and thought fair play. You pay your money your entitled to tell a player politely that you find their lack of anything unacceptable.

Someone really should have Alex Nyarko’d him the little crab-sloth. Plus he isn’t the only one the attitude of some of them stinks.

Joke how quick some blues love to be offended by the insignificant and find solace in taking a principled classy moral high ground, but don’t find all the years of no success a problem enough to be disgusted at.

The only way the psychology of the club will change from one of zero expectations to that of a winning mentality, is when the fan base unites in judging everything about the club using NSNO as our standard for everything - that includes us as fans being prepared to show it’s unacceptable to be content with mercenaries not putting a shift in, or to not be happy to settle for relegation saving specialist managers, or to not making the ground a bear pit, or for believing less capacity at an inconic new Stadium is ok becaus empty seats is sooo embarrassing unbelievable short sightedness and further examples of the acceptance of dross performance.

We get what we deserve for that.
If you don’t want something enough you won’t get it.


I’m sick of the apathy.
I’m sick of the contentment of mediocrity.
I hate the automatic sense that we can’t achieve anything.
I won’t accept seeing sub standard performances of players and feeling like I should feel embarrassed what the footballing purist fraternity will think or what even our own fellow fans will think if this anger and frustration is passed on verbally to the players that are letting us down - happily.(lack of services paid)

Fair play to the boo boys. They didn’t care what their down the nose judging peers thought, and instinctively and tribally shouted an F you in the way the could without having season tickets took off them for something judged as badly as, I don’t know, persistent standing and singing to get the team going!!

Let Everton grounds, and the good fans that don’t give a fat one what others think, continue to be a place to let footballers, referees, managers and anyone else that come here know what they think.

CryAr*es - Get over yourselves.
Start wanting the nothing but the best, maybe then we might get it.

Changing expectations has to be instigated by us.

 

[jceverton]

You have to wonder what the manager and his assistants are doing under those circumstances. If they hear and see that they have to at least take it on board in making the changes. Allardyce sounded completely clueless post match what it was all about though.

That’s because he’s an idiot. Been clear all season Schneiderlin has been swanning around, putting zero effort in and acting like an arrogant meff! Yet the guy gets played by Allardyce. The substitution wasn’t the main problem it was the fact that Schneiderlin was even on the bench when a young lad like Beni has played better, put more effort in but is nowhere to be seen. And yes I did boo the guy because frankly he had it coming and the fact that Allardyce can’t see it then proves he’s part of the problem.

 

[Saint Domingo]

He's been rubbish, we all know it, but I was cringing when he was booed onto the pitch like that.

Places like GOT, Facebook, Twitter etc are the places to have a go at players rather than publicly vilify them like he got today.

It was embarrassing in my opinion. Maybe even classless.

Schneiderlin won’t even read social media but he’ll have heard those boos. Would you rather we clapped him on? Did his performance last week (and all season) deserve a round of applause?

 

[Saint Domingo]

Booing a player that doesn’t give a fat one for us or this club we love won’t ever be something I’d feel embarrassed about.

I didn’t boo. I laughed at the fact some did and thought fair play. You pay your money your entitled to tell a player politely that you find their lack of anything unacceptable.

Someone really should have Alex Nyarko’d him the little crab-sloth. Plus he isn’t the only one the attitude of some of them stinks.

Joke how quick some blues love to be offended by the insignificant and find solace in taking a principled classy moral high ground, but don’t find all the years of no success a problem enough to be disgusted at.

The only way the psychology of the club will change from one of zero expectations to that of a winning mentality, is when the fan base unites in judging everything about the club using NSNO as our standard for everything - that includes us as fans being prepared to show it’s unacceptable to be content with mercenaries not putting a shift in, or to not be happy to settle for relegation saving specialist managers, or to not making the ground a bear pit, or for believing less capacity at an inconic new Stadium is ok becaus empty seats is sooo embarrassing unbelievable short sightedness and further examples of the acceptance of dross performance.

We get what we deserve for that.
If you don’t want something enough you won’t get it.


I’m sick of the apathy.
I’m sick of the contentment of mediocrity.
I hate the automatic sense that we can’t achieve anything.
I won’t accept seeing sub standard performances of players and feeling like I should feel embarrassed what the footballing purist fraternity will think or what even our own fellow fans will think if this anger and frustration is passed on verbally to the players that are letting us down - happily.(lack of services paid)

Fair play to the boo boys. They didn’t care what their down the nose judging peers thought, and instinctively and tribally shouted an F you in the way the could without having season tickets took off them for something judged as badly as, I don’t know, persistent standing and singing to get the team going!!

Let Everton grounds, and the good fans that don’t give a fat one what others think, continue to be a place to let footballers, referees, managers and anyone else that come here know what they think.

CryAr*es - Get over yourselves.
Start wanting the nothing but the best, maybe then we might get it.

Changing expectations has to be instigated by us.

This. Some people on here would prefer that we weren’t a football team and solely did charity work as it’s too ‘embarassing’ to actually want better from your club. Everton FC, the only club in the league who have fans too hipster to actually want to win anything. Ridiculous.