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Transfer Rumour Wayne Rooney

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I have nothing against Rooney, he is a player who used to play for us but moved on.
I don't think weshould bring him back because we are a club looking forward, not a club looking back.
Unless we buy him for purely business reasons and can turn a profit on his name then I would spend the fee and wages elsewhere.

Looking forward would be the entire reason we may/will sign him mate, outside the UK it would be an absolutely huge signing and will shock lots of people, the manager, director of footy both seem to want him, and various players have talked about how much they rate him, least of all lukaku

If Rooney did sign, the calibre of player we can retain or sign would increase, that's almost a guarantee. So for building a better team it ticks a lot of boxes.
 
I understand the perspective that Rooney is past his best. I don't agree that's reason enough not to sign him and pay him a fortune, but I get it.

Holding a grudge for this long over a berk kid who made a premature move - one which paid off massively for him - is well beyond my comprehension.

That kind of attitude eats you up. It's not healthy.
 
In my opinion Wayne Rooney is a technically superior footballer to anyone in the squad right now who will always give 100% on the pitch for Everton and genuinely is one of us. The question has to be who can we currently attract/afford who would be better than him right now? I can't think of anyone.

The whole Mata rumour in the summer was very exciting but it didn't happen. We aren't at the level to attract that kind of player yet and we have to accept that. I think Rooney is probably the best we can attract right now and if anyone thinks he won't do EVERYTHING in his power to win us every football match he's playing in then I don't think they understand the kind of player he is.
 
I understand the perspective that Rooney is past his best. I don't agree that's reason enough not to sign him and pay him a fortune, but I get it.

Holding a grudge for this long over a berk kid who made a premature move - one which paid off massively for him - is well beyond my comprehension.

That kind of attitude eats you up. It's not healthy.
The lad won everything at club level. He may have possibly won a domestic cup for us if he'd have stayed but right now he's won all domestic awards and the champions league and could well finish up with another FA Cup and a Europa by the end of the season! When he left we reinvested and went from 17th to 4th in the table. The situation was the right move from both parties!
 
Wayne Rooney, Everton and resisting temptation

Date published: Thursday 2nd March 2017 9:46

David Carney floated in the corner, Craig Garside flicked the ball on, and Wayne Rooney headed home at the back post. Everton had taken a 1-0 lead against Aston Villa in the 2002 FA Youth Cup final, and Rooney had scored his eighth goal of the competition. The 16-year-old promptly unveiled a scrawled message on a vest top underneath his shirt to the Goodison Park faithtful: ‘ONCE A BLUE, ALWAY’S A BLUE’

The apostrophe was the giveaway. It was a message that could only be conveyed by a pure, naive, starry-eyed boy, one as yet untainted by the darker side of football or indeed life. It was a teenager making public his affections, not afraid of letting the world know what he truly felt.

On Tuesday, the first true love attempted to appeal to that very same teenager that resides in Rooney, now 31 and very much in his final throes as a top-flight force. Ronald Koeman insisted that the striker “is one of the players” who can improve his current squad. Steve Walsh added that Rooney is “one of the greatest players that has ever played the game in England”, and that a potential return would be “euphoric”. The Everton charm offensive was in full flow.

Unlike Rooney’s innocent message – ill-advised in hindsight – 15 years prior, this was a calculated, considered declaration of intent from the Toffees. They had a loan offer rejected for the striker in January, but are pushing their way to the front of the queue ahead of the summer.

To some, it remains an unthinkable scenario. He had not only burned his bridges when leaving for Manchester United in 2004, but completely torched the paths that led to those bridges. Many felt let down, the club having nurtured his talents for six years in the youth team, before enjoying them for little over 18 months in the first team. Three months before he sent in a written transfer request – purposeful, unlike John Stones’ – Everton had finished 17th. His departure felt like a betrayal, and the relationship between fans and player soon deteriorated. He was branded ‘Judas’, and would accuse David Moyes of being overbearing, controlling and ultimately responsible for his exit – claims for which he would apologise in 2010.

In the summer of his exit, Rooney discovered the enormity of the situation. He was sat in his Croxteth home, watching Sky Sports News. Everton fans were sending in messages of disgust and surprise, with the presenters gleefully reading them out. A frustrated Rooney texted one of his own – ‘I left because the club was doing my head in’ – signing it off with his name. The presenters simply requested for “the people at home” to “stop pretending to be Wayne Rooney”.

It is impossible to fathom how difficult and delicate a position he had found himself, but the teenager, the naive, innocent teenager, did not help himself. On his first return to Goodison Park as a United player, he kissed his new club’s badge in front of his formerly adoring fans. He did the same again in 2008, narrowly avoiding an FA charge. Once a Blue, always a Red, as the new chant went.



With the player’s burgeoning maturity in his later years, the relationship has thawed. He appeared in an Everton shirt for Duncan Ferguson’s testimonial in 2015, and chose the club as his own opponent last summer. He regularly takes his family to Goodison Park to watch games. No longer is he despised as an adult for his actions as a kid.

Everton wish to take advantage of the situation. Rooney will almost certainly leave Old Trafford of his own accord in the summer. United were his lust, his 13-year fling. Football, in its never-ending quest for a romantic narrative, is willing the player to be united with his one true love once more.

The 31-year-old would theoretically return a hero, the local boy done good. He could help aid the development of the latest young stars, of Ross Barkley and Tom Davies. It is an easy decision from a commercial standpoint, and billionaire investor Farhad Moshiri was a United fan before forming ties with Everton.

It is a great storyline, the charming end to one of the most accomplished careers in English football history. The full circle. But it is fantasy, and Everton must engage with reality and ignore temptation. Rooney is not compatible with Koeman’s energetic, youthful first team. He is not of the standard required to feature for the side in sixth, nor for the team in seventh. He would be a valuable option from the bench – an expensive one too – but he is leaving United for regular football. His wages, even with a considerable pay cut, would dictate a starting place; his performances would surely not.

Rooney is the champion boxer who has taken – and thrown – far too many punches. He is now looking for one final fight, one last rumble to prove himself. The club would be forsaking their supposed increased ambitions if they indulged and provided that to a player well past his best, just as the player was perceived to have betrayed the fans more than a decade ago.


There is considerable water under the bridge between Rooney and Everton, but that does not mean that both should don waders and embrace in the middle. “I think maybe at the end of Wayne’s career he might want to come back,” Moyes said in 2010, but that choice should be Everton’s. The desire is there, yet it is born of sentiment – and elite clubs (or those wishing to join the gang) should not be slaves to sentiment. Rooney would be seen by many as a marquee signing, but he’s actually just a big f***ing tent.

“I don’t think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene,” Moyes added in that same interview. Fourteen years later, it is Rooney who is not ready for the new Everton. Most fans have forgiven and forgotten the events of the past, and his status as ‘a Blue’ has been restored. But it would be naive of the club to think their ageing former flame can be the face of their evolution.



Matt Stead
 

If we sign him it will be great for shirt sales but I am not overly fussed if he ends up elsewhere. Obviously he has been a great player but those days are behind him and i'd hate him to come here and be like Ginola, Gascoigne and Hughes were when they were all clearly past it.
 
I understand the perspective that Rooney is past his best. I don't agree that's reason enough not to sign him and pay him a fortune, but I get it.

Holding a grudge for this long over a berk kid who made a premature move - one which paid off massively for him - is well beyond my comprehension.

That kind of attitude eats you up. It's not healthy.

Haha bit melodramatic that mate.

It's football, you really don't need to apply that much logic to it. Rooney has been a panto villain at Goodison for a long time, the same as Clive Thomas, Emlyn Hughes, Barmby, Lescott etc. etc. If people prefer to keep it that way than suck up to a player they see as not able to offer us anything on the pitch anymore, then that's up to them.
 
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Rooney is more of an Evertonian than me and the majority of posters on here.

He has sweat blood and tears to be were he is right now. He has had the honour of playing in the Everton shirt and worked hard to achieve that.

The majority of you turncoats just boo or slate players off on a forum and claim to be Evertonians.

He worked his way through the ranks here and has become the top scorer for England and Manchester United. Would he have won all the honours if he stayed? The answer would be no.

Did we have to sell Wayne to keep the wolves From the door?? Yes.

That transfer benefitted us, Wayne and United.

If he comes back he will be a boost for commercial exposure. You all say we need to bring in better sponsorship deals and expand the Everton brand in foreign markets, well Wayne is the man to do that. He is a global superstar, and a true blue to boot.

He certainly would not have "won" that honour had he stayed, no. Excellent point, my good man. ;)
 

Wayne Rooney, Everton and resisting temptation

Date published: Thursday 2nd March 2017 9:46

David Carney floated in the corner, Craig Garside flicked the ball on, and Wayne Rooney headed home at the back post. Everton had taken a 1-0 lead against Aston Villa in the 2002 FA Youth Cup final, and Rooney had scored his eighth goal of the competition. The 16-year-old promptly unveiled a scrawled message on a vest top underneath his shirt to the Goodison Park faithtful: ‘ONCE A BLUE, ALWAY’S A BLUE’

The apostrophe was the giveaway. It was a message that could only be conveyed by a pure, naive, starry-eyed boy, one as yet untainted by the darker side of football or indeed life. It was a teenager making public his affections, not afraid of letting the world know what he truly felt.

On Tuesday, the first true love attempted to appeal to that very same teenager that resides in Rooney, now 31 and very much in his final throes as a top-flight force. Ronald Koeman insisted that the striker “is one of the players” who can improve his current squad. Steve Walsh added that Rooney is “one of the greatest players that has ever played the game in England”, and that a potential return would be “euphoric”. The Everton charm offensive was in full flow.

Unlike Rooney’s innocent message – ill-advised in hindsight – 15 years prior, this was a calculated, considered declaration of intent from the Toffees. They had a loan offer rejected for the striker in January, but are pushing their way to the front of the queue ahead of the summer.

To some, it remains an unthinkable scenario. He had not only burned his bridges when leaving for Manchester United in 2004, but completely torched the paths that led to those bridges. Many felt let down, the club having nurtured his talents for six years in the youth team, before enjoying them for little over 18 months in the first team. Three months before he sent in a written transfer request – purposeful, unlike John Stones’ – Everton had finished 17th. His departure felt like a betrayal, and the relationship between fans and player soon deteriorated. He was branded ‘Judas’, and would accuse David Moyes of being overbearing, controlling and ultimately responsible for his exit – claims for which he would apologise in 2010.

In the summer of his exit, Rooney discovered the enormity of the situation. He was sat in his Croxteth home, watching Sky Sports News. Everton fans were sending in messages of disgust and surprise, with the presenters gleefully reading them out. A frustrated Rooney texted one of his own – ‘I left because the club was doing my head in’ – signing it off with his name. The presenters simply requested for “the people at home” to “stop pretending to be Wayne Rooney”.

It is impossible to fathom how difficult and delicate a position he had found himself, but the teenager, the naive, innocent teenager, did not help himself. On his first return to Goodison Park as a United player, he kissed his new club’s badge in front of his formerly adoring fans. He did the same again in 2008, narrowly avoiding an FA charge. Once a Blue, always a Red, as the new chant went.



With the player’s burgeoning maturity in his later years, the relationship has thawed. He appeared in an Everton shirt for Duncan Ferguson’s testimonial in 2015, and chose the club as his own opponent last summer. He regularly takes his family to Goodison Park to watch games. No longer is he despised as an adult for his actions as a kid.

Everton wish to take advantage of the situation. Rooney will almost certainly leave Old Trafford of his own accord in the summer. United were his lust, his 13-year fling. Football, in its never-ending quest for a romantic narrative, is willing the player to be united with his one true love once more.

The 31-year-old would theoretically return a hero, the local boy done good. He could help aid the development of the latest young stars, of Ross Barkley and Tom Davies. It is an easy decision from a commercial standpoint, and billionaire investor Farhad Moshiri was a United fan before forming ties with Everton.

It is a great storyline, the charming end to one of the most accomplished careers in English football history. The full circle. But it is fantasy, and Everton must engage with reality and ignore temptation. Rooney is not compatible with Koeman’s energetic, youthful first team. He is not of the standard required to feature for the side in sixth, nor for the team in seventh. He would be a valuable option from the bench – an expensive one too – but he is leaving United for regular football. His wages, even with a considerable pay cut, would dictate a starting place; his performances would surely not.

Rooney is the champion boxer who has taken – and thrown – far too many punches. He is now looking for one final fight, one last rumble to prove himself. The club would be forsaking their supposed increased ambitions if they indulged and provided that to a player well past his best, just as the player was perceived to have betrayed the fans more than a decade ago.


There is considerable water under the bridge between Rooney and Everton, but that does not mean that both should don waders and embrace in the middle. “I think maybe at the end of Wayne’s career he might want to come back,” Moyes said in 2010, but that choice should be Everton’s. The desire is there, yet it is born of sentiment – and elite clubs (or those wishing to join the gang) should not be slaves to sentiment. Rooney would be seen by many as a marquee signing, but he’s actually just a big f***ing tent.

“I don’t think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene,” Moyes added in that same interview. Fourteen years later, it is Rooney who is not ready for the new Everton. Most fans have forgiven and forgotten the events of the past, and his status as ‘a Blue’ has been restored. But it would be naive of the club to think their ageing former flame can be the face of their evolution.



Matt Stead

Really well written, that. Very enjoyable.

I just disagree.

Rooney would be brilliant coming off the left. Barkley coming from the right or behind the striker. Bolasie to return. That's a pretty tasty front line.

#BringABlueHome

#BringBackMartinezWhilstYoureAtIt
 
Really well written, that. Very enjoyable.

I just disagree.

Rooney would be brilliant coming off the left. Barkley coming from the right or behind the striker. Bolasie to return. That's a pretty tasty front line.

#BringABlueHome

#BringBackMartinezWhilstYoureAtIt

that sounds horrendous to me but each to their own. 3 or 4 yrs ago i'd have agreed with you.
 
Looking forward would be the entire reason we may/will sign him mate, outside the UK it would be an absolutely huge signing and will shock lots of people, the manager, director of footy both seem to want him, and various players have talked about how much they rate him, least of all lukaku

If Rooney did sign, the calibre of player we can retain or sign would increase, that's almost a guarantee. So for building a better team it ticks a lot of boxes.

This.

He's a massive name, he'll increase our exposure and the marketing potential is huge.

I can already see the "welcome rooney" graphic now - blurred picture of him playing for us when he was 17 next to his fat head.
 
Wayne Rooney, Everton and resisting temptation

Date published: Thursday 2nd March 2017 9:46

David Carney floated in the corner, Craig Garside flicked the ball on, and Wayne Rooney headed home at the back post. Everton had taken a 1-0 lead against Aston Villa in the 2002 FA Youth Cup final, and Rooney had scored his eighth goal of the competition. The 16-year-old promptly unveiled a scrawled message on a vest top underneath his shirt to the Goodison Park faithtful: ‘ONCE A BLUE, ALWAY’S A BLUE’

The apostrophe was the giveaway. It was a message that could only be conveyed by a pure, naive, starry-eyed boy, one as yet untainted by the darker side of football or indeed life. It was a teenager making public his affections, not afraid of letting the world know what he truly felt.

On Tuesday, the first true love attempted to appeal to that very same teenager that resides in Rooney, now 31 and very much in his final throes as a top-flight force. Ronald Koeman insisted that the striker “is one of the players” who can improve his current squad. Steve Walsh added that Rooney is “one of the greatest players that has ever played the game in England”, and that a potential return would be “euphoric”. The Everton charm offensive was in full flow.

Unlike Rooney’s innocent message – ill-advised in hindsight – 15 years prior, this was a calculated, considered declaration of intent from the Toffees. They had a loan offer rejected for the striker in January, but are pushing their way to the front of the queue ahead of the summer.

To some, it remains an unthinkable scenario. He had not only burned his bridges when leaving for Manchester United in 2004, but completely torched the paths that led to those bridges. Many felt let down, the club having nurtured his talents for six years in the youth team, before enjoying them for little over 18 months in the first team. Three months before he sent in a written transfer request – purposeful, unlike John Stones’ – Everton had finished 17th. His departure felt like a betrayal, and the relationship between fans and player soon deteriorated. He was branded ‘Judas’, and would accuse David Moyes of being overbearing, controlling and ultimately responsible for his exit – claims for which he would apologise in 2010.

In the summer of his exit, Rooney discovered the enormity of the situation. He was sat in his Croxteth home, watching Sky Sports News. Everton fans were sending in messages of disgust and surprise, with the presenters gleefully reading them out. A frustrated Rooney texted one of his own – ‘I left because the club was doing my head in’ – signing it off with his name. The presenters simply requested for “the people at home” to “stop pretending to be Wayne Rooney”.

It is impossible to fathom how difficult and delicate a position he had found himself, but the teenager, the naive, innocent teenager, did not help himself. On his first return to Goodison Park as a United player, he kissed his new club’s badge in front of his formerly adoring fans. He did the same again in 2008, narrowly avoiding an FA charge. Once a Blue, always a Red, as the new chant went.



With the player’s burgeoning maturity in his later years, the relationship has thawed. He appeared in an Everton shirt for Duncan Ferguson’s testimonial in 2015, and chose the club as his own opponent last summer. He regularly takes his family to Goodison Park to watch games. No longer is he despised as an adult for his actions as a kid.

Everton wish to take advantage of the situation. Rooney will almost certainly leave Old Trafford of his own accord in the summer. United were his lust, his 13-year fling. Football, in its never-ending quest for a romantic narrative, is willing the player to be united with his one true love once more.

The 31-year-old would theoretically return a hero, the local boy done good. He could help aid the development of the latest young stars, of Ross Barkley and Tom Davies. It is an easy decision from a commercial standpoint, and billionaire investor Farhad Moshiri was a United fan before forming ties with Everton.

It is a great storyline, the charming end to one of the most accomplished careers in English football history. The full circle. But it is fantasy, and Everton must engage with reality and ignore temptation. Rooney is not compatible with Koeman’s energetic, youthful first team. He is not of the standard required to feature for the side in sixth, nor for the team in seventh. He would be a valuable option from the bench – an expensive one too – but he is leaving United for regular football. His wages, even with a considerable pay cut, would dictate a starting place; his performances would surely not.

Rooney is the champion boxer who has taken – and thrown – far too many punches. He is now looking for one final fight, one last rumble to prove himself. The club would be forsaking their supposed increased ambitions if they indulged and provided that to a player well past his best, just as the player was perceived to have betrayed the fans more than a decade ago.


There is considerable water under the bridge between Rooney and Everton, but that does not mean that both should don waders and embrace in the middle. “I think maybe at the end of Wayne’s career he might want to come back,” Moyes said in 2010, but that choice should be Everton’s. The desire is there, yet it is born of sentiment – and elite clubs (or those wishing to join the gang) should not be slaves to sentiment. Rooney would be seen by many as a marquee signing, but he’s actually just a big f***ing tent.

“I don’t think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene,” Moyes added in that same interview. Fourteen years later, it is Rooney who is not ready for the new Everton. Most fans have forgiven and forgotten the events of the past, and his status as ‘a Blue’ has been restored. But it would be naive of the club to think their ageing former flame can be the face of their evolution.



Matt Stead
The issue with that article is that signing Rooney isnt purely based on the "romantic narrative" of rooney coming "home" from the club. Koeman and Walsh both think he would improve the squad
 
Looking forward would be the entire reason we may/will sign him mate, outside the UK it would be an absolutely huge signing and will shock lots of people, the manager, director of footy both seem to want him, and various players have talked about how much they rate him, least of all lukaku

If Rooney did sign, the calibre of player we can retain or sign would increase, that's almost a guarantee. So for building a better team it ticks a lot of boxes.

Is it? Unless he is going to pay these players out of his own pocket and use his marketing potential to get us free entry into the champions league I don't see what difference it will make especially to players from abroad.
 

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