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Transfer Rumour Wayne Rooney

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Sod it, I'd have him back in a heartbeat after watching some of the utter dirge served up by our attacking players this season. That's ignoring the fact that he's clearly light years ahead of Kone, Valencia, and Niasse. 3 year deal, make the bloke captain, he won't hide like some of the others who seem to specialise in camouflage.
 
He waited until the last week of the window to demand a transfer, knowing we were over a barrel, and knowing, or hoping that we would be in for a long hard relegation fight. The little beaut dropped us as soon as he could, which is normal from these players, but not in the way he did it, I will never forget 6 out of 7 Mirror journalists tipping us for relegation. He never even scored in a derby, in his last season for us he got more yellows than goals.

He can stick to tweeting supportive texts about Philip Green now, he is finished.
 
It was our choice to sell him at the time. He was young and influenced by his agent so he cannot take the full blame. Would we have won a trophy if he had stayed? More than likely. Do I want him back ? Nope.
 

Can't help but feel a lot of people are letting sentimentality cloud their better judgement on this debate.

I keep hearing a lot of fans say "he's better than what we have now" as the main reason to bring him back. Aye he is, but the only reason for that is because what we have now is utter garbage. Is he good enough to get in Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal's sides, even in the second striker role to back up a main goalscorer? Absolutely not. Because those teams don't have utter dirge like Kone, Valencia and Niasse on their books, they went ahead and actually signed some decent back up options which we never. Rooney isn't even a 15 goal a season striker anymore and that's the reason United want rid.

He will never be a world-class sitting, creative midfielder and we already have an older player in that role anyway in Barry, who has played in that position his entire career and knows his job to a tee. I know which I'd prefer to have in the team.

Play him as a number 10? We could do with signing a player for that role but there's far better, younger players we can get rather than a 30-something former striker. Now that we finally have some real dosh we shouldn't be resorting to taking in unwanted cast-offs from other clubs and hoping we can get something out of them like we did for years under Moyes, we're not plucky little Everton who always have to make do anymore.

Bottom line of the point I'm making is we should be looking to sign players who have their best years ahead of them, not ones whose best years have gone. If it were any other player no one would want him, its just because it's Rooney and the emotional side of it. I think it would send a far bigger message of ambition if we left him be and showed the world we're not interested in bringing back an older player for sentimental reasons, we want only in-their-prime players because we want to be the best ASAP.
 

PaulieMc said:
Can't help but feel a lot of people are letting sentimentality cloud their better judgement on this debate.

I keep hearing a lot of fans say "he's better than what we have now" as the main reason to bring him back. Aye he is, but the only reason for that is because what we have now is utter garbage. Is he good enough to get in Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea or Arsenal's sides, even in the second striker role to back up a main goalscorer? Absolutely not. Because those teams don't have utter dirge like Kone, Valencia and Niasse on their books, they went ahead and actually signed some decent back up options which we never. Rooney isn't even a 15 goal a season striker anymore and that's the reason United want rid.

He will never be a world-class sitting, creative midfielder and we already have an older player in that role anyway in Barry, who has played in that position his entire career and knows his job to a tee. I know which I'd prefer to have in the team.

Play him as a number 10? We could do with signing a player for that role but there's far better, younger players we can get rather than a 30-something former striker. Now that we finally have some real dosh we shouldn't be resorting to taking in unwanted cast-offs from other clubs and hoping we can get something out of them like we did for years under Moyes, we're not plucky little Everton who always have to make do anymore.

Bottom line of the point I'm making is we should be looking to sign players who have their best years ahead of them, not ones whose best years have gone. If it were any other player no one would want him, its just because it's Rooney and the emotional side of it. I think it would send a far bigger message of ambition if we left him be and showed the world we're not interested in bringing back an older player for sentimental reasons, we want only in-their-prime players because we want to be the best ASAP.
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If we could get someone younger/better then great but I think we'll struggle to in January. He wouldn't be a long term solution but he could improve us until we can get someone better.
His name, experience and leadership wouldn't do us any harm either.
 
Wouldn't get in the starting 11 at Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, City or even West Ham , ,Southampton and Leicester on current form.

But some want him back here .. sentimentality does strange things
 
toffee matt said:
Wouldn't get in the starting 11 at Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, City or even West Ham , ,Southampton and Leicester on current form.

But some want him back here .. sentimentality does strange things
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It's more to do with desperation than sentimentality. Do you think Kone, Niasse or Valencia are better than him?
 
Ashtonian said:
Thing is he is still a blue, still comes to our games and raises his kids to be blues as well.

Calling him a traitor or whatever you want is just small minded. Yes Rooney left us , and he won every single domestic trophy in his career. He won league titles, champions leagues fa cup league cup charity Shields etc you get the point. In that same time frame we have won.....nothing. we have played no proper champions league games and didn't even qualify when we did.

So again I ask, why is he a traitor? Because he left everton to actually go and have a successful career? To go and win things? To give his so called talent under the best manager in the world and play for arguably the second biggest club in the world?

I'm missing the point where he is a traitor? I'd say he made the perfect career move has had a fantastic career as a result.once he is retired then makes no odds how many games he played for us, all that matters is what he achieved
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It doesn't matter how you excuse it he is still a traitor. Regardless if that makes me small minded, he still betrayed the club he claimed to support if not by actually leaving the club then definitely by publicly kissing the badge at Goodison. The betrayal is a fact you can choose to justify but denying it is a lie. Football is by its nature emotive otherwise it's just a bunch of obscenely overpaid kids kicking a bag of wind. I hold him in absolute contempt and always will.
 

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