A player moving into the last twelve months of his contract.
Would we have gotten 30m at a tribunal for him thirteen years ago ?
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Would we have gotten 30m at a tribunal for him thirteen years ago ?
Well said Caught. He left us out to dry when we needed him most. He can buy his kids as many kits as he wants but he can't still claim to love us after he took the piss for a whole summer and left us to be relegated.
the money we got from his sale allowed us to make signings and we finished 4th the season after he left!
Verbal Kint
Player Valuation: £35m
Nonsense, could elaborate but it would take to long. Agree to disagree.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Genuinely I'm not arsed about him leaving anymore. I'm over it and I have been for a long time.
It hurt at the time, but he had the world at his feet and we had just finished 17th
He may support Everton, but he put his career first
Fine
Over the years the rift has healed, at least for me it has.
As with any signing, if he would improve us, I'm ok with it. I think whoever makes the decision on this should consider his age, the cost of any deal and the likelihood of him declining further in the near future, but he would give us options up front and at number 10 - both positions we have no real credible alternative to the current incumbent of the shirts.
It hurt at the time, but he had the world at his feet and we had just finished 17th
He may support Everton, but he put his career first
Fine
Over the years the rift has healed, at least for me it has.
As with any signing, if he would improve us, I'm ok with it. I think whoever makes the decision on this should consider his age, the cost of any deal and the likelihood of him declining further in the near future, but he would give us options up front and at number 10 - both positions we have no real credible alternative to the current incumbent of the shirts.
John Osters Love Child
Player Valuation: £6m
THIS!
Moyes on Rooney in 2010:
"I don't think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene," he added. "I can understand his feelings at the time. Everybody here wanted to keep Wayne but we probably weren't ready to keep him. Are we better now? Yes, definitely. As far as I'm concerned, I would welcome him back and I think maybe at the end of Wayne's career he might want to come back to play for Everton again. Who knows?"
Moyes sued Rooney and HarperCollins, the publisher of My Story So Far, over allegations that he leaked to the local press details of a conversation they held following revelations that the then teenager had visited a brothel. They eventually reached an out-of-court settlement in 2008.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/20/david-moyes-wayne-rooney-everton
"I don't think we were ready for Wayne when he came on the scene," he added. "I can understand his feelings at the time. Everybody here wanted to keep Wayne but we probably weren't ready to keep him. Are we better now? Yes, definitely. As far as I'm concerned, I would welcome him back and I think maybe at the end of Wayne's career he might want to come back to play for Everton again. Who knows?"
Moyes sued Rooney and HarperCollins, the publisher of My Story So Far, over allegations that he leaked to the local press details of a conversation they held following revelations that the then teenager had visited a brothel. They eventually reached an out-of-court settlement in 2008.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/feb/20/david-moyes-wayne-rooney-everton
John Osters Love Child
Player Valuation: £6m
The Rooney that left Everton was a very different person and equally the Everton he left was a very different Everton.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Not having read through the whole thread, I remember when The Echo published this over the summer and thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if we had been in discussions about a deal back then. The latest stuff about his future makes me believe this has been being discussed for six months or more
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wayne-rooney-its-time-everton-11369723
Greg O'Keeffe on why Rooney's return would be a powerful statement of intent from Farhad Moshiri
Wayne Rooney was back in blue for Everton last pre-season - here's why they should make it permanent this summer
Everton and Farhad Moshiri are in the market for a statement this summer.
The Blues new majority investor's current priority is finding a world-class manager capable of taking the club forward.
It's that task which should be consuming all the time and energy of Goodison's movers and shakers.
But once the new man is in place, matters switch to statements of intent on the pitch - and the players who will form the first wave of the Moshiri revolution.
Cash, perhaps more than ever before, is going to be splashed .
There's one potential signing that would emphatically announce Everton's newly galvanised ambition.
Rooney celebrates his wonder goal to help Everton beat Arsenal at Goodison in October 2002
Remember the name , Clive Tydesley once instructed the wider footballing world. There was no way they could forget it.
Wayne Rooney.
That's the name, should it be splashed over the back page of the ECHO and printed on thousands of royal blue shirts this summer, that will get pulses racing and chests beating.
Rooney's return while still in his pomp; arguably never better in his mature transition to central midfield, would grab the attention of the world.
If there was, in the end, a degree of wishful thinking about Everton being able to attract the Old Trafford-bound Jose Mourinho as their new manager, isn't the idea of taking Rooney in the opposite direction still a bit fanciful?
Not really. That spirit of ambition, the insistence that Everton are one of England's biggest clubs still, is nothing to be mocked.
Why shouldn't Everton aim for the best?
In the past, aside from lingering rancour after his departure back in 2004, the obvious obstacle to re-singing Rooney was financial.
How could the Toffees ever begin to compete with the England star's salary, believed to be around £260,000-per-week? There are not many clubs that could.
Whether Everton would be able to match it now is still unsure.
Moshiri is a seriously wealthy man, but we know too little about him yet to be certain of just how lavishly he will spend on eye-watering wages when he already has a new stadium to help pay for.
Everton majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri (L) and chairman Bill Kenwright
But would Rooney be willing to agree on a compromise? Still a bumper wage packet, surely Everton's highest paid player, and definitely enough to mean his lifestyle isn't compromised for an instant?
It depends how much he would want to return to Goodison while still able to make an impact.
After all, what has he got left to achieve at United? The boy wonder has become a man at the Theatre of Dreams and; he's won everything there is to reach for at domestic level.
Manchester United's Wayne Rooney (left) and Michael Carrick (right) lift the FA Cup trophy on Saturday
But Everton can't offer him Champions League next season! That's OK, neither can United.
And does the 30-year-old really value playing the inordinate amount of fixtures that the Europa League entails?
That's not to cast aspersions on Rooney's appetite for the game. His superlative performance at Wembley on Saturday as United clinched the FA Cup, and wide-as-the-Mersey smile as he hoisted the famous old pot above his head underlined just how in love he remains with his profession.
Wayne Rooney, left, gets a warm welcome from chairman Bill Kenwright last summer
And it's romance which could be the clincher for Moshiri and Bill Kenwright, who seemed as close as ever to Rooney when they were reunited before Duncan Ferguson's testimonial last summer.
Whichever manager the pair opt for, he would count himself enormously lucky to have Rooney arriving after him.
With Gareth Barry 35 and nobody yet emerging as a viable successor for the veteran playmaker's specific role, Rooney has proved he can play there with delightful ease.
Let's face it, he can still play anywhere.
Rooney is clearly still an Evertonian . In a sense he meant what that t-shirt said.
Rooney displays that t-shirt
And maybe he feels he has unfinished business at the club he always dreamed of playing for as a kid nut-megging everyone on the De La Salle playground.
The narrative of Rooney's career has always combined elements of fairy-tale and gritty realism in equal measure.
If realism suggests his profile is too big for a club that finished 11th last term, then fairytale says otherwise.
It's time for Wayne to come home.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wayne-rooney-its-time-everton-11369723
Greg O'Keeffe on why Rooney's return would be a powerful statement of intent from Farhad Moshiri
- Greg O'Keeffe on why Rooney's return would be a powerful statement of intent from Farhad Moshiri
Wayne Rooney was back in blue for Everton last pre-season - here's why they should make it permanent this summer
Everton and Farhad Moshiri are in the market for a statement this summer.
The Blues new majority investor's current priority is finding a world-class manager capable of taking the club forward.
It's that task which should be consuming all the time and energy of Goodison's movers and shakers.
But once the new man is in place, matters switch to statements of intent on the pitch - and the players who will form the first wave of the Moshiri revolution.
Cash, perhaps more than ever before, is going to be splashed .
There's one potential signing that would emphatically announce Everton's newly galvanised ambition.
Rooney celebrates his wonder goal to help Everton beat Arsenal at Goodison in October 2002
Remember the name , Clive Tydesley once instructed the wider footballing world. There was no way they could forget it.
Wayne Rooney.
That's the name, should it be splashed over the back page of the ECHO and printed on thousands of royal blue shirts this summer, that will get pulses racing and chests beating.
Rooney's return while still in his pomp; arguably never better in his mature transition to central midfield, would grab the attention of the world.
If there was, in the end, a degree of wishful thinking about Everton being able to attract the Old Trafford-bound Jose Mourinho as their new manager, isn't the idea of taking Rooney in the opposite direction still a bit fanciful?
Not really. That spirit of ambition, the insistence that Everton are one of England's biggest clubs still, is nothing to be mocked.
Why shouldn't Everton aim for the best?
In the past, aside from lingering rancour after his departure back in 2004, the obvious obstacle to re-singing Rooney was financial.
How could the Toffees ever begin to compete with the England star's salary, believed to be around £260,000-per-week? There are not many clubs that could.
Whether Everton would be able to match it now is still unsure.
Moshiri is a seriously wealthy man, but we know too little about him yet to be certain of just how lavishly he will spend on eye-watering wages when he already has a new stadium to help pay for.
Everton majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri (L) and chairman Bill Kenwright
But would Rooney be willing to agree on a compromise? Still a bumper wage packet, surely Everton's highest paid player, and definitely enough to mean his lifestyle isn't compromised for an instant?
It depends how much he would want to return to Goodison while still able to make an impact.
After all, what has he got left to achieve at United? The boy wonder has become a man at the Theatre of Dreams and; he's won everything there is to reach for at domestic level.
Manchester United's Wayne Rooney (left) and Michael Carrick (right) lift the FA Cup trophy on Saturday
But Everton can't offer him Champions League next season! That's OK, neither can United.
And does the 30-year-old really value playing the inordinate amount of fixtures that the Europa League entails?
That's not to cast aspersions on Rooney's appetite for the game. His superlative performance at Wembley on Saturday as United clinched the FA Cup, and wide-as-the-Mersey smile as he hoisted the famous old pot above his head underlined just how in love he remains with his profession.
Wayne Rooney, left, gets a warm welcome from chairman Bill Kenwright last summer
And it's romance which could be the clincher for Moshiri and Bill Kenwright, who seemed as close as ever to Rooney when they were reunited before Duncan Ferguson's testimonial last summer.
Whichever manager the pair opt for, he would count himself enormously lucky to have Rooney arriving after him.
With Gareth Barry 35 and nobody yet emerging as a viable successor for the veteran playmaker's specific role, Rooney has proved he can play there with delightful ease.
Let's face it, he can still play anywhere.
Rooney is clearly still an Evertonian . In a sense he meant what that t-shirt said.
Rooney displays that t-shirt
And maybe he feels he has unfinished business at the club he always dreamed of playing for as a kid nut-megging everyone on the De La Salle playground.
The narrative of Rooney's career has always combined elements of fairy-tale and gritty realism in equal measure.
If realism suggests his profile is too big for a club that finished 11th last term, then fairytale says otherwise.
It's time for Wayne to come home.
I dont understand that at all, why would you sing a pla
It didn't, it was the following summer the money kicked in, he left us to rot. We finished fourth, a tremendous effort for all involved, he slammed the door in our faces just before.
Do you know if he had stayed that year and gotten fourth he would have left a legend.
Overall on strictly football terms, I wouldn't go near him now, he's dropped below a level of contribution and effectiveness that in a strictly business and footballing terms, not to mention economically he would be a poor poor signing.
Would far prefer a Marhez, Sigurddson, Mata, Berhami etc.
Would also have Barkley ahead of him NEA.
Massive no from me.
Would far prefer a Marhez, Sigurddson, Mata, Berhami etc.
Would also have Barkley ahead of him NEA.
Massive no from me.
Not having read through the whole thread, I remember when The Echo published this over the summer and thinking that it wouldn't surprise me if we had been in discussions about a deal back then. The latest stuff about his future makes me believe this has been being discussed for six months or more
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/wayne-rooney-its-time-everton-11369723
Greg O'Keeffe on why Rooney's return would be a powerful statement of intent from Farhad Moshiri
- Greg O'Keeffe on why Rooney's return would be a powerful statement of intent from Farhad Moshiri
Wayne Rooney was back in blue for Everton last pre-season - here's why they should make it permanent this summer
Everton and Farhad Moshiri are in the market for a statement this summer.
The Blues new majority investor's current priority is finding a world-class manager capable of taking the club forward.
It's that task which should be consuming all the time and energy of Goodison's movers and shakers.
But once the new man is in place, matters switch to statements of intent on the pitch - and the players who will form the first wave of the Moshiri revolution.
Cash, perhaps more than ever before, is going to be splashed .
There's one potential signing that would emphatically announce Everton's newly galvanised ambition.
Rooney celebrates his wonder goal to help Everton beat Arsenal at Goodison in October 2002
Remember the name , Clive Tydesley once instructed the wider footballing world. There was no way they could forget it.
Wayne Rooney.
That's the name, should it be splashed over the back page of the ECHO and printed on thousands of royal blue shirts this summer, that will get pulses racing and chests beating.
Rooney's return while still in his pomp; arguably never better in his mature transition to central midfield, would grab the attention of the world.
If there was, in the end, a degree of wishful thinking about Everton being able to attract the Old Trafford-bound Jose Mourinho as their new manager, isn't the idea of taking Rooney in the opposite direction still a bit fanciful?
Not really. That spirit of ambition, the insistence that Everton are one of England's biggest clubs still, is nothing to be mocked.
Why shouldn't Everton aim for the best?
In the past, aside from lingering rancour after his departure back in 2004, the obvious obstacle to re-singing Rooney was financial.
How could the Toffees ever begin to compete with the England star's salary, believed to be around £260,000-per-week? There are not many clubs that could.
Whether Everton would be able to match it now is still unsure.
Moshiri is a seriously wealthy man, but we know too little about him yet to be certain of just how lavishly he will spend on eye-watering wages when he already has a new stadium to help pay for.
Everton majority shareholder Farhad Moshiri (L) and chairman Bill Kenwright
But would Rooney be willing to agree on a compromise? Still a bumper wage packet, surely Everton's highest paid player, and definitely enough to mean his lifestyle isn't compromised for an instant?
It depends how much he would want to return to Goodison while still able to make an impact.
After all, what has he got left to achieve at United? The boy wonder has become a man at the Theatre of Dreams and; he's won everything there is to reach for at domestic level.
Manchester United's Wayne Rooney (left) and Michael Carrick (right) lift the FA Cup trophy on Saturday
But Everton can't offer him Champions League next season! That's OK, neither can United.
And does the 30-year-old really value playing the inordinate amount of fixtures that the Europa League entails?
That's not to cast aspersions on Rooney's appetite for the game. His superlative performance at Wembley on Saturday as United clinched the FA Cup, and wide-as-the-Mersey smile as he hoisted the famous old pot above his head underlined just how in love he remains with his profession.
Wayne Rooney, left, gets a warm welcome from chairman Bill Kenwright last summer
And it's romance which could be the clincher for Moshiri and Bill Kenwright, who seemed as close as ever to Rooney when they were reunited before Duncan Ferguson's testimonial last summer.
Whichever manager the pair opt for, he would count himself enormously lucky to have Rooney arriving after him.
With Gareth Barry 35 and nobody yet emerging as a viable successor for the veteran playmaker's specific role, Rooney has proved he can play there with delightful ease.
Let's face it, he can still play anywhere.
Rooney is clearly still an Evertonian . In a sense he meant what that t-shirt said.
Rooney displays that t-shirt
And maybe he feels he has unfinished business at the club he always dreamed of playing for as a kid nut-megging everyone on the De La Salle playground.
The narrative of Rooney's career has always combined elements of fairy-tale and gritty realism in equal measure.
If realism suggests his profile is too big for a club that finished 11th last term, then fairytale says otherwise.
It's time for Wayne to come home.
This situation reminds of those mega superstars of fame and fortune who are well past it but choose to stuff some extra pension money in the bank by playing to chumps who live on the dream of somthing that was well spent many years ago.
I wish everton fans would get up of there knees and look to the future.
Deffo mate, 350 grand a week to 100 a week is a non starter + his £millions in image rights and endorsements + transfer fee..then he is going to wind back the years and find that speed he has lost and score lots of goals.
The Everton PR train has left the station which is timely when we actually need 3 or 4 players that were needed in the summer.
The Everton PR team must be laughing there socks off with the blags they pull before each transfer window.
toffeeblue9
Player Valuation: £35m
Ashley Williams is older than him and I have no issue at all with his signing because he's exactly what we need, even if it is only really fixing a problem in the short term
If Rooney does the same, fine
From a footballing sense, I don't really know if I agree or not, I am skeptical from an economic sense, but I don't think the "emotional" argument should be a factor one way or the other.
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