Well well well

[hullefc]

I'll repeat, taking into account birth rates, immigration and migration I firmly believe it will be a horrible place to live if youre English, and I'll add and for anyone else that matter. 20-30 years time come back to me with your 4%. The 4% already have very loud voices as it is! Anyway, I do feel like most of my GOT time is spent talking about stuff like this, which isn't what its meant for. It used to be fun.

In 20-30 years Muslim immigrants will number 5% of the population. By the way no one is forcing you to comment on anything on GOT, you choose to comment. If you don't want to make a comment on things to do with immigrants or immigration don't. It really is that simple.

 

[davek]

Maybe so but tell me why a minority who have only really been here in numbers for about 20 years already have a separate law system in place? Forgetting the morals and ethics of sharia, that's just simply not right. And its really not an obsession. Its just a hot topic at the moment and from someone who comes from somewhere that has been deeply negatively affected by Islam I feel I can offer an alternative view to the ones the left wing media present, and even groups like the BNP present. I feel my views are fairly middle ground. Its about intergration and tolerance of others. I believe sharia and some forms of Islam promote neither. This is the only place I talk about it because it keeps being brought up. Just look at all other countries in the world where sharia is enforced, then apply it to how well the general population is treated then bring that over here. Not a pretty picture.

But from the little reading I've done around it it comes across loud and clear that Sharia Law is not accepted by anything like a majority in Arab counties, and in any case there is a great diversity in non-Arab speaking countries as to how faithful that law/code is adhered to.

Here in Britain it's just used to solve two bob disputes over debt etc or telling a few kids off for drinking or drug taking. The 'honour' killings are not representative of British-applied Sharia Law.

 

[EFCNIK]

But from the little reading I've done around it it comes across loud and clear that Sharia Law is not accepted by anything like a majority in Arab counties, and in any case there is a great diversity in non-Arab speaking countries as to how faithful that law/code is adhered to.

Here in Britain it's just used to solve two bob disputes over debt etc or telling a few kids off for drinking or drug taking. The 'honour' killings are not representative of British-applied Sharia Law.

Agree to disagree. Sharia Law is a lot darker and more influential than what you portray.

 

[bluejock]

 

[Goat]

School these fools Nik.

Look, if GOT was around in 1970 and somebody said that in 2013 there would be parts of England where white nationals would be a minority people would have laughed, just like you are all laughing at Niks Sharia Law UK in the future.

You watch, Brussels will spout some crap about human rights and BOOM the whole country will be off doing the rapings of women in Ninja hoods.

Dont say you wasnt warned lads.

 

[EFCNIK]

Koff you gigantic boaby.

 

[Bungle]

 

[Goat]

Koff you gigantic boaby.

You talking to me LAD?

 

[Bungle]

School these fools Nik.

Look, if GOT was around in 1970 and somebody said that in 2013 there would be parts of England where white nationals would be a minority people would have laughed, just like you are all laughing at Niks Sharia Law UK in the future.

You watch, Brussels will spout some crap about human rights and BOOM the whole country will be off doing the rapings of women in Ninja hoods.

Dont say you wasnt warned lads.

Is a ninjas hood the same as a wizards sleeve?

 

[Goat]

Im bringing you the future bungs, dont knock it.

 

[Blue 1]

Anyone who seriously thinks Sharia will supercede British Statutory law within their lifetime is being quite silly.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Its weird, there's only about 100 miles between me and Nik in East Anglia but Islam has pretty much no affect on my life.

You should move to Noriwch Nik so you don't have to worry about how in 30 years getting your legs cut off for being white or something.

 

[EFCNIK]

Anyone who seriously thinks Sharia will supercede British Statutory law within their lifetime is being quite silly.

Key being 'within their lifetime'. Whats wrong with wanting it stopped before its too late.

 

[Blue 1]

Key being 'within their lifetime'. Whats wrong with wanting it stopped before its too late.

OK. Ever. Or for as long as can be realistically posited. At the moment, the chance of it happening ever is a good as nothing.

 

[Dell Boy]

What you fail to grasp is they don't intergrate into our modern educated society. They live in separate pockets of their home countries, only mixing with eachother and allowing the form of ideology to grow amongst eachother. Major mosques in Britain have been caught out preaching hate to thousands. I'm not saying they'll all take it literally and start blowing us up, but some will and it snowballs. If we ever met Im sure youd be thrilled for me to take you around certain areas and youll see exactly what Im talking about.

Nik the type of pocket immigrant communities you hate so much - is an exact replica of the type of Irish community I grew up in in the UK.

In the late 70s/early 80s I grew up in a wholly self sufficient Irish sub-culture. The English primary school I went to was 90% Irish first and second generation kids. I remember it well how the real English kids stood out. Away from school it was church, church social club and the Gaelic sports centre - oh and intermixed with trips to our various cousins and family friends that all lived within a mile of us. Tell me would that idea offend you?

I suggest that type of homogenisation amongst immigrants is absolutely standard for any first and second generation immigrant group. If the local community is receptive - then they assimilate.

Ultimately though all your scaremongering falls flat on the idea that somehow the great body of public opinion is somehow going to accept any encroachment into their day to day lives from hard line sharia law. It just won't happen.

For someone that claims to be educated you seem to have a blind spot over the last 1,000 years of democratic evolution in England and most other European countries. It is a fundamental element to our psyche and being. We will not give up our freedoms. Where is your evidence to suggest all of a sudden that we will? And please don't bring up some pathetic tinkering around the edges.

So ultimately I do think that scaremongers like you actually make the situation far worse.

You claim not to be affiliated to any political group yet your sound bites and arguments are almost identical as the EDL. Why is that?

As an aside I do not think sharia law in certain Asian countries will last beyond a single generation. I don't think any educated grouping will accept such a hard line dictatorship for very long.

Ultimately through education and community engagement we can hopefully evolve in a constructive manner. So the sooner that the police take a much harder line with those that preach hate - on both sides- the better.