Who could potentially replace Martinez?

[roydo]

More boring that what is currently being served up? Is it possible to get more boring than what has been on show this season?

I meant as an appointment. Hence the caveats in my post.

Not a pro/anti comment on him or his managerial ability. Just a boring appointment.

 

[Jacob]

Just for interest, this is taken from the Republik of Mancunia blog 24/8/13 and is Neville Southall's Paddypower blog re the Moyes stance on the insulting bid for Baines/Fellaini........

Quotes from The Express, via Neville Southall’s Paddy Power Blog.

“The joint bid stinks”, said the Welshman.

“The way David Moyes has gone about it stinks. The entire world knows Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines are worth a lot more than the £28m offered and Moyes is disrespecting Everton.

“If you’ve got a good relationship with the club and you’re supposedly best mates with the chairman – and Moyes was always saying how they were when he was at the club – would you go back to your mate’s business and try to pinch them off him knowing that the business is skint? It’s really despicable behaviour towards Everton and disrespectful towards the fans.

“The stupid offer – and it is a stupid offer – isn’t entirely down to him, but he shouldn’t go in with an offer that seriously undervalues the players just to unsettle them. Doing it this way stinks. It wouldn’t have happened under (Sir Alex) Ferguson.

“There’s a real danger he will lose all his credibility with the Everton fans. He might think that in order for him to succeed he is entitled to go for players he knows and trusts, but he can still operate ethically. The manner in which it’s been done is rubbish.

“If Baines goes, our chairman will be lynched. It’s the equivalent of telling the Everton fans ‘stuff you, we’re not interested in what you think, we want the money’. If Fellaini goes, not as many people will be bothered. They love Baines because he’s been great – a model pro – and letting him go would be a real kick in the teeth to Everton fans.

 

[davek]

I was pro-Moyes, for much of his time at the Club, near the end I had started to think we had reached a glass ceiling, his work in the transfer windows were superb, we were a hard to beat feared club, who mostly failed at the higher reaches of things, he wasnt able to find that 10%, he lacked a certain something.

Im not gonna re-write history like some, at times we played some great stuff, sometimes it was dire, but he knew how to grind out results, his comments after leaving werent great, but he wasnt Evertons manager anymore, so he had to do what was "right" for his current club.

He wasnt given a chance at United, he messed up big time by binning off the most successful backroom staff in the modern era, but I personally think Rio and his bunch of merrymen had deemed him unworthy from day 1 and his signing of Fellaini, for big money, from a "small" club like Everton certainly didnt give him ANY leeway from the cockney monkeys that are "United Fans".

So, do I think Moyes is a good manager? Yes, I do, nobody else could have taken Everton from where they were, to where he left them, NOBODY, but at the same time I dont think hes the right man for now, if he came back he would have a huge majority of the fanbase on his back from day 1 and sadly I think we or he would still lack that 10% needed.

To put it more succinctly: he's a dullard ginger Judas.

 

[davek]

Just for interest, this is taken from the Republik of Mancunia blog 24/8/13 and is Neville Southall's Paddypower blog re the Moyes stance on the insulting bid for Baines/Fellaini........

Quotes from The Express, via Neville Southall’s Paddy Power Blog.

“The joint bid stinks”, said the Welshman.

“The way David Moyes has gone about it stinks. The entire world knows Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines are worth a lot more than the £28m offered and Moyes is disrespecting Everton.

“If you’ve got a good relationship with the club and you’re supposedly best mates with the chairman – and Moyes was always saying how they were when he was at the club – would you go back to your mate’s business and try to pinch them off him knowing that the business is skint? It’s really despicable behaviour towards Everton and disrespectful towards the fans.

“The stupid offer – and it is a stupid offer – isn’t entirely down to him, but he shouldn’t go in with an offer that seriously undervalues the players just to unsettle them. Doing it this way stinks. It wouldn’t have happened under (Sir Alex) Ferguson.

“There’s a real danger he will lose all his credibility with the Everton fans. He might think that in order for him to succeed he is entitled to go for players he knows and trusts, but he can still operate ethically. The manner in which it’s been done is rubbish.

“If Baines goes, our chairman will be lynched. It’s the equivalent of telling the Everton fans ‘stuff you, we’re not interested in what you think, we want the money’. If Fellaini goes, not as many people will be bothered. They love Baines because he’s been great – a model pro – and letting him go would be a real kick in the teeth to Everton fans.

Despicable is the word.

 

[Charlie Croker]

I can only LOL at anybody wanting Moyes back tho.

He repeatedly got us into a League position several places higher than our place in the wage bill table. Look at that table now- Spurs are on £120mpa, then it goes up to £200+mpa at the top. We are in a group of about half-a-dozen clubs paying around £65-70mpa for our squad. Is there another manager with a track record of consistently confounding that disadvantage?

I know Moyes is a traitor, but his career was going nowhere with Kenwright's vice grip on the Club's purse strings, and so he fell under the spell of a really competent, self-serving liar. He can be excused, in my view. It is in our interests to allow him his mistake.

With these new TV money deals, he might consider it worth his while to have another go at getting Everton through the glass ceiling. The alternative is to take pot luck with an unproven manager.

 

[blulouie]

I was pro-Moyes, for much of his time at the Club, near the end I had started to think we had reached a glass ceiling, his work in the transfer windows were superb, we were a hard to beat feared club, who mostly failed at the higher reaches of things, he wasnt able to find that 10%, he lacked a certain something.

Im not gonna re-write history like some, at times we played some great stuff, sometimes it was dire, but he knew how to grind out results, his comments after leaving werent great, but he wasnt Evertons manager anymore, so he had to do what was "right" for his current club.

He wasnt given a chance at United, he messed up big time by binning off the most successful backroom staff in the modern era, but I personally think Rio and his bunch of merrymen had deemed him unworthy from day 1 and his signing of Fellaini, for big money, from a "small" club like Everton certainly didnt give him ANY leeway from the cockney monkeys that are "United Fans".

So, do I think Moyes is a good manager? Yes, I do, nobody else could have taken Everton from where they were, to where he left them, NOBODY, but at the same time I dont think hes the right man for now, if he came back he would have a huge majority of the fanbase on his back from day 1 and sadly I think we or he would still lack that 10% needed.

Some good points there , as you stated Nobody could have done the same job.
We will never know for sure will we.
Managers are given one of two things Money or Time.
He was never given the first but was given 11 years (only Fergie & Wenger were longer serving at one point)
11 years is virtually unthinkable in the premiership , and won precisely Nowt....so , Moyes.. no thanks from me.

 

[davek]

He repeatedly got us into a League position several places higher than our place in the wage bill table. Look at that table now- Spurs are on £120mpa, then it goes up to £200+mpa at the top. We are in a group of about half-a-dozen clubs paying around £65-70mpa for our squad. Is there another manager with a track record of consistently confounding that disadvantage?

I know Moyes is a traitor, but his career was going nowhere with Kenwright's vice grip on the Club's purse strings, and so he fell under the spell of a really competent, self-serving liar. He can be excused, in my view. It is in our interests to allow him his mistake.

With these new TV money deals, he might consider it worth his while to have another go at getting Everton through the glass ceiling. The alternative is to take pot luck with an unproven manager.

That's good of him.

That'd be the equivalent of someone trashing your house to bits then knocking on the door a year later saying they'd live there now you've put a conservatory and pool in it.

 

[davek]

Moyes did a job:

Let's rein this in shall we - he kept us top half playing rubbish football along the way, never threatening to win a trophy.

He's a footnote in Everton's history.

It really is pitiful that some people would believe that's still attractive.

 

[joey_macmo]

Let's rein this in shall we - he kept us top half playing rubbish football along the way, never threatening to win a trophy.

Davek making things up who'd have thunk it

 

[Charlie Croker]

Moyes did a job:

Let's rein this in shall we - he kept us top half playing rubbish football along the way, never threatening to win a trophy...

Rubbish football, every week for a decade? Between August and December 2012, we played at least as well as we have under Martinez. I say December 2012, because that is when I believe Moyes left for manure, in his head. Our League position at that time? 4th.

 

[Dymak]

Rubbish football, every week for a decade? Between August and December 2012, we played at least as well as we have under Martinez. I say December 2012, because that is when I believe Moyes left for manure, in his head. Our League position at that time? 4th.

Didn't he then sign John Stones in the January?

 

[Toffeelover]

The chap I was going to vote for is not on that list, step up Dave.

 

[davek]

Rubbish football, every week for a decade? Between August and December 2012, we played at least as well as we have under Martinez. I say December 2012, because that is when I believe Moyes left for manure, in his head. Our League position at that time? 4th.

He's a very limited manager.

Are we really going to re-write history now? 99.9% of Evertonians this time last season were heaving huge sighs of relief that United were 'stuck with Moyes' and not us anymore.

The feller was a plodder. Sure, there were odd games we'd cast off the cloak of caution and carry the ball for the majority of the game, rather than get to the half way line and pitch it to the edge of the oppositions area and hope it stuck...as was our signature way of playing under him. But those games were few and far between.

He's a meat and potatoes, roll up your sleeves manager who emphasised perspiration over inspiration. There is no other way to view him, IMO.

 

[Billy Dean]

Anyone who wants Moyes back, just give your head a wobble FFS.

 

[Goat]

Moyes wouldnt join a team out of the top 10 anyway.