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Why aren't English clubs after American talent?

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Why aren't Liverpool and Everton raiding Merseyside for more talent?

Growing up in Huyton, I saw tons of skilful players and I just don't get why they don't make it.

I saw Gerrard play, midget playing for Whiston Juniors. He was just another good player to me on the estate.

There should be a new approach to scouting, or maybe there is and I've missed it.

At least it's a bit better. If Michael Owen was born just a few years earlier, no one would have picked him. He already was rejected by Everton for being too small
Don't think that's true mate. Although he was an Everton fan, he was always going to sign for the rs. I remember officiating at an u14 cup final he played in ( he was 12 at the time) and a member of the Welsh FA told me he had about 10 clubs after him but he will be signing for them. I think he scored 4 goals in that final and you could tell then how good he was going to be.
 
Here in the US we still think that if you are 18-21 and you bang in a couple goals in a big league that its the 1st step on the way to becoming the next Hazard/Mbappe.

Go back and look at some the best clubs/players in the U-19/U-21 world cups. For every Aguero there are a 100 Altidores because #$%# happens throughout a career, and most of the time it doesn't turn out well (injuries, stagnation, too much money at too early of an age, signing w/ the wrong club etc). I saw both Aguero and Altidore at 18 play in the same tourney. long story short: at the time Aguero was better but the gap between the 2 at the time was small.

Pulisic, will I be shocked if he someday makes a top 30 list, no. However, there is a much better chance that he ends up on the Barkley career track. A dude who chased the money, and got injured a lot and is totally fine sitting on the bench b/c "I'm rich". Even comparing Pulisic to Barkley is a stretch right now. He has never has come close to having a season like Barkley did in 2013-14.

MLS sure its not a great league and finances/cap/no relegation creates horribly unbalanced clubs which you can't compare to any club in the world. However, I do think its a good place for American players stay until you are 22-23. Odds are if you are a talent, you are the best player/marked man on the club and are made captain which matters a lot in terms professional growth. Your manager isn't going to run you into the ground and you can leave the club in the regular season to go play internationals.

Most of the best US players stayed in MLS for their early 20s. If just 1-2 of our "great players" end up as only as good as Donovan/Dempsey/Holden/McBride etc they've beaten the odds.
 
Should be looking for first Indian superstar
I totally agree. Can you imagine if a player from India made it big, the marketing potential would be immense. I believe that getting the best talent into the team should be based on ability alone and blind to the colour and background of the player involved, but a canny club would be keeping an eye out for a kid with an Indian or Pakistani background to just hoover up in either of those countries and their diaspora.

If an American player is good enough, then he'd be targeted by the Premier League clubs.
 
Heres the Brazilians u22 and u20 groups

U22
Cunha
Pedrinho
Luis
Emerson
Lodl
Ibanez
Dodo

U20
Veron
Rodrygo
Vinicius
Antony
Assuncao
Martinelli
Tete
Reinier
Pedro
Luis Henrique


Which Americans again lol ?
If Brazillian talent was better than American talent, then why are all these European clubs in Germany and Italy targeting American players and the MLS over the other leagues in the Americas? In Germany, all the top clubs such as Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, Schalke, Hoffenheim, etc all have Americans on their roster and the Americans are now the go-to market for German clubs, seeing how Monchengladbach got Joe Scally in 2021.

Brazillian talent has dried up considerably in recent years and it's a shame about their decline. Argentina, Uruguay and Colombia are barely producing any talent either now. If we take the Right-Back position, America currently has Dest, Scally, Bryan Richards competing for that spot, and they all play for top teams in Europe.

This is Juventus:

 

Bit off topic but it still pisses me off that we didn’t try harder to get Donovan here on a permanent deal. He was very good here and surely would have increased our exposure in the US what with already having Tim Howard.
 
USA producing more talent than Brazil?

Mate that's complete nonsense- Richarlison alone is better than any attackers the US have...

If you tossed them into the CONMEBOL qualifiers, I honestly don't even think they would be able to finish 5th- they probably wouldn't finish ahead of Ecuador and Chile (let alone Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, and Uruguay)...
I'd have Pulisic over Richarlison every day
 
Heres the Brazilians u22 and u20 groups

U22
Cunha
Pedrinho
Luis
Emerson
Lodl
Ibanez
Dodo

U20
Veron
Rodrygo
Vinicius
Antony
Assuncao
Martinelli
Tete
Reinier
Pedro
Luis Henrique


Which Americans again lol ?
Reyna is probably as good as all of those at u20 level bar Vinicius. I mean he's literally keeping Reinier out of the team.

I think he's overdone it but you've also overdone it with this list.
 
Bit off topic but it still pisses me off that we didn’t try harder to get Donovan here on a permanent deal. He was very good here and surely would have increased our exposure in the US what with already having Tim Howard.
It pisses me off that Landon was so laissez-faire about his career and just let MLS jerk him around too. He should have worked to get to Europe between 2006 and 2010.
 
If Brazillian talent was better than American talent, then why are all these European clubs in Germany and Italy targeting American players and the MLS over the other leagues in the Americas? In Germany, all the top clubs such as Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, Schalke, Hoffenheim, etc all have Americans on their roster and the Americans are now the go-to market for German clubs, seeing how Monchengladbach got Joe Scally in 2021.

Brazillian talent has dried up considerably in recent years and it's a shame about their decline. Argentina, Uruguay and Colombia are barely producing any talent either now. If we take the Right-Back position, America currently has Dest, Scally, Bryan Richards competing for that spot, and they all play for top teams in Europe.

This is Juventus:


Ive literally put a list of Brazilians there for you...surely you can see the difference in quality ?

I'd have Pulisic over Richarlison every day

You still think that hes superior to Lozano lol

Massively overrated...
 

Reyna is probably as good as all of those at u20 level bar Vinicius. I mean he's literally keeping Reinier out of the team.

I think he's overdone it but you've also overdone it with this list.

Reyna is a very promising player...

Not sure how I can 'overdo' a list of Brazilians in an age group lol
 
Ive literally put a list of Brazilians there for you...surely you can see the difference in quality ?



You still think that hes superior to Lozano lol

Massively overrated...
Pulisic isn't overrated at all. He's genuinely top class when he plays. The problem is the playing part. He's hurt way too much.
 
Reyna is a very promising player...

Not sure how I can 'overdo' a list of Brazilians in an age group lol
You definitely have because half of them haven't done anything. If you were making this list 3 years ago you'd have put Neres and Malcom on it too. If there is one thing people are good at it is overrating young Brazilians. They don't all end up world class.
 

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