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World Cup 2022

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There are going to be hardly any fans at this are there?

It's going to have all the atmosphere of behind closed doors football isn't it

I really hope hardly anyone turns up and the fan zones over there are empty.

I've got no issue with them banning beer if it had been part of the bid.

Wonder who is the least trustworthy. FIFA or the Qatari's?
 
There are going to be hardly any fans at this are there?

It's going to have all the atmosphere of behind closed doors football isn't it

The groups I’m in, the England tickets are more or less being given away at this stage.

3,000 from England expected, 2,500 from Wales. That’s the lowest for years.

Football isn’t really about just football is it? It’s about the whole experience and for the western world, that usually means, for a World Cup, few beers, soak in the culture.

A quick look on the portal shows tickets for a fair few games, including QFs etc. if you take away the enjoyment of football you’ll find people won’t really want to spend thousands.
 
The groups I’m in, the England tickets are more or less being given away at this stage.

3,000 from England expected, 2,500 from Wales. That’s the lowest for years.

Football isn’t really about just football is it? It’s about the whole experience and for the western world, that usually means, for a World Cup, few beers, soak in the culture.

A quick look on the portal shows tickets for a fair few games, including QFs etc. if you take away the enjoyment of football you’ll find people won’t really want to spend thousands.

If there is no atmosphere then it will be a rubbish tournament
 

I really hope hardly anyone turns up and the fan zones over there are empty.

I've got no issue with them banning beer if it had been part of the bid.

Wonder who is the least trustworthy. FIFA or the Qatari's?

I think Qatar is the worst.

FIFA is probably still riddled with corruption, but it’s improved massively. They just saw the dollar signs and ran.

Qatar before bidding knew their own beliefs, laws, temperatures and still went ahead and bid.

12 years on, and they got the World Cup moved, alcohol, homosexuality, are move or less banned.
There’s no accommodation, and what accommodation exists, is sub standard.

I think everyone accepts it was a massive mistake now, expect those who lined their pockets. They could have Sportswashed their way in different ways, like they have actually done, successfully over the last 12 years.
 
I think Qatar is the worst.

FIFA is probably still riddled with corruption, but it’s improved massively. They just saw the dollar signs and ran.

Qatar before bidding knew their own beliefs, laws, temperatures and still went ahead and bid.

12 years on, and they got the World Cup moved, alcohol, homosexuality, are move or less banned.
There’s no accommodation, and what accommodation exists, is sub standard.

I think everyone accepts it was a massive mistake now, expect those who lined their pockets. They could have Sportswashed their way in different ways, like they have actually done, successfully over the last 12 years.

Honestly I think this World Cup will be a footnote in years to come

They'll show the trophy lift and just move on whenever it's recapped

FIFA will want to pretend it never happened

Russia and Qatar back to back has been a really bad look I think. Two horrible regimes that have continued to be horrible

Heaven help them if Trump is back in office by the time 2026 rolls around

I think we'll be seeing a lot of "safe" options for the next 10-20 years. They'll have had had their fingers burned by this one
 
If there is no atmosphere then it will be a rubbish tournament

Pretty much why I’ve stayed away.

I’ve said it loads, I sound like a broken record at this stage. But a holiday isn’t fun if I’m constantly on edge about what is, and what isn’t allowed.

The locals don’t want it, and it shows.

Sadly, it’s the most open World Cup for years and we should all be excited, but it’s December and it’s just not right.
 
Pretty much why I’ve stayed away.

I’ve said it loads, I sound like a broken record at this stage. But a holiday isn’t fun if I’m constantly on edge about what is, and what isn’t allowed.

The locals don’t want it, and it shows.

Sadly, it’s the most open World Cup for years and we should all be excited, but it’s December and it’s just not right.

This is a big issue I agree

It's very hard to enjoy sport as a visitor in that sort of situation

I remember the people of Lille clearly not wanting us there for that Europa game back in 14/15 and the atmosphere was kind of "off" for the whole trip as a result. It's better when you're wanted and you can actually have some fun
 

Honestly I think this World Cup will be a footnote in years to come

They'll show the trophy lift and just move on whenever it's recapped

FIFA will want to pretend it never happened

Russia and Qatar back to back has been a really bad look I think. Two horrible regimes that have continued to be horrible

Heaven help them if Trump is back in office by the time 2026 rolls around

I think we'll be seeing a lot of "safe" options for the next 10-20 years. They'll have had had their fingers burned by this one

Every single person I know who went to Russia said it was the best they’ve done.

I understand the overlying issues of awarding it to Russia, and of course it was bribery, they’ve already alluded to it. But they bent over backwards to accommodate fans and make them feel welcome. They made it about the fans.

Qatar, everything about it is wrong and I completely agree with you about it being a footnote.
I don’t think FIFA are done with hosting in a Muslim country, but I think next time they’ll go somewhere it’s more relaxed like Morocco, provided they have agreements in place.
 
The media have had 12 years to highlight these issues, why did they only start 2 weeks before the tournament?

Thats not the case, it obviously ramps up as the tournament is happening but there have been lots of journalists across lots of mainstream and specialist outlets highlighting these issues for years.
 
I think Qatar is the worst.

FIFA is probably still riddled with corruption, but it’s improved massively. They just saw the dollar signs and ran.

Qatar before bidding knew their own beliefs, laws, temperatures and still went ahead and bid.

12 years on, and they got the World Cup moved, alcohol, homosexuality, are move or less banned.
There’s no accommodation, and what accommodation exists, is sub standard.

I think everyone accepts it was a massive mistake now, expect those who lined their pockets. They could have Sportswashed their way in different ways, like they have actually done, successfully over the last 12 years.

I've no issue with Qatar bidding, that's up to them. Fifa totally ignoring their own technical report saying it was impossible in favour of wheelbarrows full of cash is where the fault lies.
 
I've no issue with Qatar bidding, that's up to them. Fifa totally ignoring their own technical report saying it was impossible in favour of wheelbarrows full of cash is where the fault lies.

I mean, my issue is that they’ve watched World Cups, they know the huge demand, and know they can’t cope.


They’ve gave FIFA Assurances and went back on them. Blatter, and the rest of his corrupt cronies obviously didn’t care. But it should never have been in Qatar and they should have been laughed at for bidding.

But the assurances they made, they’ve had 12 years to sort and on the Eve of the tournament, they’re still messing with the rules? Farcical.

Not sure if I’m naive in thinking even FIFA will have learned from this debacle.
 

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