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Transfer Rumour Yankuba Minteh

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blueboy72 said:
We went nearly 4 months without winning and never win if we concede first and never win at goodison if the opposition score a goal. I call it toss of a coin football, hoping to score first or keep games tight and score off a corner.
It’s not a long term strategy to progress as a team.
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And it worked, didnt it. It seems to me pretty disingenuous to reduce all of the successful hard work, determination, and strategy that those players/coaches put forth under the most brutal of circumstances to "toss of a coin".
 
micknick said:
I much prefer quick counter attacking football than pass a side to death. Problem we've had is we havent had the players to do either so you have to come up with a way to win with a mixture of player styles. I like the fact we seemed to be looking at players that mean we can have more of an identity.

Even big Tim is all about winning the ball higher up the pitch, this Minteh cat looks to have pace to burn and can hit teams on the break and doesnt look scared to help out defensively. The frustration with Doucoure is that his passing isnt the best and in Ndiaye we can potentially have a player that has the work rate but also the guile.
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I've watched great Brighton matches and matches that were bore-fests. The passing is great to watch when it works, terrible when it doesn't. Sorta like counter-attacking football, or any football for that matter.
 
pfim said:
My point is that no, not every fan wants to play like Brighton or Burnley. We create chances but don't have the right people in the right spots to convert.

48 points is a great season considering our situation. People pay lip service to the absolute dumpster fire the club is/was, but grow impatient with that and say Dyche can't change based on the past 12 months, when we were in survival mode and the team was a pieced-together mish-mash.

If he can't progress the club further under Friedken's ownership, he'll be sacked. It's really that simple. But to say that defending and counter-attacking isn't exciting isn't right. It certainly is and was many times last season.
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When you’re in a relegation fight and haven’t won many games, winning a game will play tricks on you that it was a great performance,
Because we’re so desperate and goodison being what it is, the atmosphere will be fantastic and that can overshadow the performance. There were plenty of boos last season and fans sitting there bored out their minds
 
blueboy72 said:
When you’re in a relegation fight and haven’t won many games, winning a game will play tricks on you that it was a great performance,
Because we’re so desperate and goodison being what it is, the atmosphere will be fantastic and that can overshadow the performance. There were plenty of boos last season and fans sitting there bored out their minds
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I'm glad you at least accept this.
 
blueboy72 said:
Opportunities really, after the Chelsea goal he got 45 mins in the next game at Burnley because doucoure went off injured and then he got hardly any minutes in the next 10
Games, even though we didn’t win any. Chermiti started one game and that was when DCL and Beto were both out injured,
Other than that he was getting a couple of minutes here and there

I’m not really sure dobbin or Chermiti how any of us can tell if they’ve improved. If it wasn’t for PSR I doubt dobbin goes, or if he did, it would Probably be for 5/6 mil not 9
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Yeah Dobbin had his own injuries and then we went through that horrible spell where we weren’t getting results and I wouldn’t want to play kids in that environment either.

If you can’t see the difference between Chermiti in his early performances and later performances I don’t know what to tell you. Improvement happens behind the scenes too, not just in matches and he came back looking much more useful apart from a poor sub appearance at Arsenal.
 

PeregrineT said:
And it worked, didnt it. It seems to me pretty disingenuous to reduce all of the successful hard work, determination, and strategy that those players/coaches put forth under the most brutal of circumstances to "toss of a coin".
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That’s what he plays in my mind, I’ve seen nothing different to suggest otherwise. That’s why he never makes early subs and at 1-0 down away he won’t chase the game. Like at Bournemouth whe we knicked a late goal only to concede a minute later, dyche said he would have been happy with a point.
 
blueboy72 said:
That’s what he plays in my mind, I’ve seen nothing different to suggest otherwise. That’s why he never makes early subs and at 1-0 down away he won’t chase the game. Like at Bournemouth whe we knicked a late goal only to concede a minute later, dyche said he would have been happy with a point.
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Well we arten't.
 
Shibbywiggles said:
Yeah Dobbin had his own injuries and then we went through that horrible spell where we weren’t getting results and I wouldn’t want to play kids in that environment either.

If you can’t see the difference between Chermiti in his early performances and later performances I don’t know what to tell you. Improvement happens behind the scenes too, not just in matches and he came back looking much more useful apart from a poor sub appearance at Arsenal.
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Could also be that he settled into his surroundings. I’m sure a 19tr kid from abroad is going to take time to settle.
So if you can’t give a youngster a go when we’re on a bad run when can you?? Considering McNeil and Harrison stunk the gaff out for 2/3rds of the season.

Will be interesting next season with Thelwell taking about only spending on young players.
And if he sticks with doucoure and Harrison /mcneil on the flanks and sticks with then even on a bad run And we’ve spent 40mil on Ndiaye and a winger
 
blueboy72 said:
Could also be that he settled into his surroundings. I’m sure a 19tr kid from abroad is going to take time to settle.
So if you can’t give a youngster a go when we’re on a bad run when can you?? Considering McNeil and Harrison stunk the gaff out for 2/3rds of the season.

Will be interesting next season with Thelwell taking about only spending on young players.
And if he sticks with doucoure and Harrison /mcneil on the flanks and sticks with then even on a bad run And we’ve spent 40mil on Ndiaye and a winger
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You said he didn’t improve attacking youngsters

I said last season we had two attacking youngsters and both improved

You said it might just be that Chermiti got settled…

Where is the miss? What more should Dyche have done last season with our young attackers?

I think you just don’t like Dyche which is up to you but I’m not seeing a failing last season from our two young attackers around the squad
 

Shibbywiggles said:
You said he didn’t improve attacking youngsters

I said last season we had two attacking youngsters and both improved

You said it might just be that Chermiti got settled…

Where is the miss? What more should Dyche have done last season with our young attackers?

I think you just don’t like Dyche which is up to you but I’m not seeing a failing last season from our two young attackers around the squad
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Not seen anything in 12 yrs at Everton or Burnley he’s improves young attacking players
 
allen said:
A bit of that (you're right, people enjoy watching a car crash) - but also, we're still a massive draw because of who we are. One of the biggest clubs in the country, regardless of how bad we've been for a generation.
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We were the comedy team for sure, but you are right. To the outsider though, the relegation fight between Leeds Leicester and us must have been entertaining to say the least. They wanted to capitalize off of that drama no doubt.
 
blueboy72 said:
That’s what he plays in my mind, I’ve seen nothing different to suggest otherwise. That’s why he never makes early subs and at 1-0 down away he won’t chase the game. Like at Bournemouth whe we knicked a late goal only to concede a minute later, dyche said he would have been happy with a point.
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So how does one play coin-toss football and end up on 48 points with a squad that almost got relegated the two prior seasons?
 
PeregrineT said:
So how does one play coin-toss football and end up on 48 points with a squad that almost got relegated the two prior seasons?
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Well this squad is very different to 2yrs ago and the league is very average the bottom 3 are worst in prem history. And that squad we have should be nowhere near to relegation , he had luck with injuries, his go to 13/14 players all played or were available for over 30 of the 38 league games. A competent manager should be easily getting over 40 points and that’s what dyche is a competent manager. And we scored half our goals from set pieces, there no guarantee we do that again next season
 

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