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Yannick Bolasie

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Best winger by a stretch, creates everytime he plays, grafts, can play on either wing.

Not his fault that nobody else does anything.

Yep - Seen people saying he is "undroppable" - well, he's the only winger in the squad who has done anything productive this season. That's the reason he has stayed in the team and we have been experimenting with who the other winger is. None of the other three have impressed and I'm not at all surprised that Koeman is looking at the likes of Depay etc as a result.

Bolasie won't be everyone's cup of tea because he's so unorthodox and inconsistent (watching him at Bournemouth was painful, for example), but I've warmed to him - he's created much more than I thought he would and he's in the team on merit at the moment.

Did we overpay? Maybe. Probably. But he's improved the squad and team, even if he's a bit like Marmite for many
 
Yep - Seen people saying he is "undroppable" - well, he's the only winger in the squad who has done anything productive this season. That's the reason he has stayed in the team and we have been experimenting with who the other winger is. None of the other three have impressed and I'm not at all surprised that Koeman is looking at the likes of Depay etc as a result.

Bolasie won't be everyone's cup of tea because he's so unorthodox and inconsistent (watching him at Bournemouth was painful, for example), but I've warmed to him - he's created much more than I thought he would and he's in the team on merit at the moment.

Did we overpay? Maybe. Probably. But he's improved the squad and team, even if he's a bit like Marmite for many

Summed it up very well mate, IMO.

There's no grand conspiracy to play him because he cost us a lot (which he did, nobody is denying that).

He's in the side because at the moment (and wrongly so) he's our only creative outlet.

That needs to change. He's too inconsistent for that, just as Barkley and Del have proven to be.

We need a playmaker, either one who allows Barkley to drop deeper (or takes Barkley's place) or dictates from deep and gets forward ala Arteta (we still don't know whether Barkley can do that).

Or, and this would be my ideal scenario, a playmaker that can play wide or centrally (Bernardo Silva, Yunes Malli, Ryad Boudebouz) are some examples of players abroad who currently play in this style, and allow us different options and get us more back towards the style we had (under both Moyes and RM) when Pienaar was fit. We have desperately been missing any spark or intelligence to our play since his injuries ended him.
 
Khal, he's not playing because he cost us a lot of money.

He's playing because he's our leading assister and chance creator...

You're a great poster but my word, this 'anonymous' theory is ridiculous.

I'm sorry, but how can a player who is literally involved in ALL of our attacking play be classed as anonymous?

His form hasn't been great - in fact as you say recently he's been poor - but he still creates good chances and gets in good positions.

Now, the issue is we have nobody who is coming in and showing that they can have that effect, playing well or not.


Toff.....you see that bit in bold?

That is exactly the point myself and others are making.

He has been poor and needs to be subject to the same criteria as our other wide players.

i.e. sat on the bench on occasion or hooked when he is not in the game.

;)

I am glad you are finally coming round to my way of thinking :)
 

Toff.....you see that bit in bold?

That is exactly the point myself and others are making.

He has been poor and needs to be subject to the same criteria as our other wide players.

i.e. sat on the bench on occasion or hooked when he is not in the game.

;)

I am glad you are finally coming round to my way of thinking :)

But the fact remains that even though he has been poor Khal (in recent games) he's still involved in all of our chances.

I dread to think what we'd be like without that, given the form of Kev, Del and Lennon...
 
Summed it up very well mate, IMO.

There's no grand conspiracy to play him because he cost us a lot (which he did, nobody is denying that).

He's in the side because at the moment (and wrongly so) he's our only creative outlet.

That needs to change. He's too inconsistent for that, just as Barkley and Del have proven to be.

We need a playmaker, either one who allows Barkley to drop deeper (or takes Barkley's place) or dictates from deep and gets forward ala Arteta (we still don't know whether Barkley can do that).

Or, and this would be my ideal scenario, a playmaker that can play wide or centrally (Bernardo Silva, Yunes Malli, Ryad Boudebouz) are some examples of players abroad who currently play in this style, and allow us different options and get us more back towards the style we had (under both Moyes and RM) when Pienaar was fit. We have desperately been missing any spark or intelligence to our play since his injuries ended him.

Simply not true - he's the only one being used every game, not our only one full stop.

Mirallas and Deulofeu could do the same job, if not better, if given the same role every week.

He's been miserable thus far, not sure how you're not seeing it.
 
Simply not true - he's the only one being used every game, not our only one full stop.

Mirallas and Deulofeu could do the same job, if not better, if given the same role every week.

He's been miserable thus far, not sure how you're not seeing it.


Mirallas has started every game this season bar three in the league Tubey.

He's scored one and got one assist, and contributed far less in terms of creating clear-cut chances.

Not sure how you're not seeing that Bolasie is our best and most productive winger - which is probably just a sad reflection on our other options.
 
Mirallas has started every game this season bar three in the league Tubey.

He's scored one and got one assist, and contributed far less in terms of creating clear-cut chances.

Not sure how you're not seeing that Bolasie is our best and most productive winger - which is probably just a sad reflection on our other options.

Yes, and has done by playing a completely different role in the team. He hasn't been the creative outlet, he's been more of a second striker cutting in. Everything has gone by Bolasie, and his conversion rate with that in mind has been woeful.

He's not our "best and most productive winger" - he's our only one because we haven't used anyone else since he arrived.
 

Yes, and has done by playing a completely different role in the team. He hasn't been the creative outlet, he's been more of a second striker cutting in. Everything has gone by Bolasie, and his conversion rate with that in mind has been woeful.

He's not our "best and most productive winger" - he's our only one because we haven't used anyone else since he arrived.

He is, by definition, our most productive attacking player behind Lukaku.

And yes, given his poor conversion rate, that to me reflects badly on the rest of the squad.

Perhaps the reason he has been used so much is because he is the only one who makes those runs in behind or into the area?

Whereas we've got Kev or Del or Lennon or at times even Ross (though he's improved a lot in the last few matches) out hanging on the fringes hoping for the ball to fall to them.
 
He is, by definition, our most productive attacking player behind Lukaku.

And yes, given his poor conversion rate, that to me reflects badly on the rest of the squad.

Perhaps the reason he has been used so much is because he is the only one who makes those runs in behind or into the area?

Whereas we've got Kev or Del or Lennon or at times even Ross (though he's improved a lot in the last few matches) out hanging on the fringes hoping for the ball to fall to them.
Deulofeu and Lennon both had spells last season when they were much more productive than Bolasie is being right now. Bolasie is the type of player Koeman wants, that's why he's being used as the main attacking threat, no other reason. Deulofeu hasn't started a game in his favoured position since about June as far as I can remember, so how you can judge his productivity there I don't know.
 
Deulofeu and Lennon both had spells last season when they were much more productive than Bolasie is being right now. Bolasie is the type of player Koeman wants, that's why he's being used as the main attacking threat, no other reason. Deulofeu hasn't started a game in his favoured position since about June as far as I can remember, so how you can judge his productivity there I don't know.

He started on the right wing vs a Championship side in September and was awful mate.

He played there against City as well and put in a decent shift.

As it stands, Bolasie is the only winger we have that offers any form of support to Rom. How people can't see this astounds me.
 
He started on the right wing vs a Championship side in September and was awful mate.

He played there against City as well and put in a decent shift.

As it stands, Bolasie is the only winger we have that offers any form of support to Rom. How people can't see this astounds me.
They can't see it because it's not true mate. I've just pointed out to you that when Deulofeu and Lennon were given that role last season they did more than Bolasie is doing now. These players could offer support to Rom if given the chance, they have shown that in the past. Deulofeu had a poor game against Norwich yes, Bolasie had a poor game against Swansea. And Chelsea. And Palace...

Koeman wants to use Bolasie in that role. That's fine, he's the manager so he can do what he wants. Me disagreeing on a forum isn't going to bother him too much I don't think, but my opinion is that he's wrong.

What people are trying to get across to you though, is that Bolasie's stats don't necessarily tell you what you think they do. They're skewed, because of the prominent role he's being given. It's like when people say 'without Lukaku's goals we'd be relegated'. Well we wouldn't, would we? We'd amend the way we play and someone else would score goals instead.
 
He is, by definition, our most productive attacking player behind Lukaku.

And yes, given his poor conversion rate, that to me reflects badly on the rest of the squad.


Perhaps the reason he has been used so much is because he is the only one who makes those runs in behind or into the area?

Whereas we've got Kev or Del or Lennon or at times even Ross (though he's improved a lot in the last few matches) out hanging on the fringes hoping for the ball to fall to them.


He's bad because of others, not because he's playing bad ???


lol lol
 

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