squonk
Player Valuation: £8m
funny because no matter how many times I read his post I cant see the word 'clap' anywhere. must pay a visit to the opticians. @Professor Toffee
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funny because no matter how many times I read his post I cant see the word 'clap' anywhere. must pay a visit to the opticians. @Professor Toffee
You're missing the point. I've said on here a number of times that I don't dislike Bolasie and I think he's done well in spells. Assisting is good, yes we agree. What has been said many many many times though, is that Bolasie having assisted more than other players may well have more to do with the fact that we constantly give him the ball and ask him to do so, far more than we do with any other player. The argument is that were we to ask Deulofeu, Lennon, Barkley or Mirallas to be the focal point of our attacks, their stats may be just as 'impressive'. Alternatively we could tweak it so that we were attacking in less one dimensional way, and the whole team could benefit.
Same true with Crystal Palace fans? I recall a few on here talking about his final ball letting him down.
Lies, damned lies and statistics.
He attempts more 'chances' (and by whose definition?!) than most - as I was saying before, sometimes a chance isn't on and that's fine - keep the ball. Bolasie has a tendency to just hit and hope - it'll work sometimes, but the bigger picture isn't great.
Either way, in my opinion his performance as a whole for Everton have been underwhelming - Bolasie hasn't offered any more than what Deulofeu/Lennon offered in spells but then, it's all about opinions and football fans have a very selective memory.
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
Do you actually understand the English language or are you just particularly obtuse
I think that argument would have more legs if when Del, Kev, Lennon etc were getting on the ball they actually did something with it.
They hardly ever have.
If you kick the ball at the subs bench it's a throw-in to the opposition mate.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Check his actual clear cut chances created out for Palace mate, it was actually very high, his problem was the fact that Palace until signing Benteke had utter carthorses playing up front for them otherwise he would have had way way more.
Will be honest though would rather we had Bolasie putting it into the box 10 times than endless faffing about that we get from both Mirallas and Deulofeu for the past year, the onus really should have been on getting players flooding into the box not criticising the player who doing what essentially is his job and sticking it in a dangerous area, but thats long been our problem
As for stats then yeah can be misleading, but with my own eyes i've seen a player who actually creates gilt edged chances most games that others are failing to slot mate, and better get used to stats as we have a DoF now who prioritises them when recruiting (see Gana for an example of how that can be a great thing)
Of course not just through Bolasie, but there's no doubt that our tactics have heavily relied on him being the one to create goals.
When have we looked to play through balls from midfield? We haven't. So you won't get many assists from your central players because they're not being asked to do the things that will create goals. The other wide players have also played second fiddle when they've both been on the pitch, and when you're a sub desperate to make an impression it can be easy to fall into the trap of trying to do something brilliant rather than just doing a steady job - that's human nature. It's much easier to get on with your job if you know that you're getting picked every week, like Bolasie has.
Again, I'm not slating him, I just think people go way overboard on his importance to the team and his productivity.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Sad news both for us and the player himself. Misses the chance to further develop his skills on the world stage.
Lennon has started the last few games. Done nothing.
Del has had half-an-hour at least during our poor run in most games. Done nothing.
Kev - looked decent for the second half on Sunday.
bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
The more scary option though mate is that instead we just end up with a vaccuum and as a team we dont fill that void.
On evidence of the past year or more then a betting man would lay odds on that, we hardly work a a cohesive team do we?
A fit Yala delivering balls for 2011 Nikica Yelavic before they put him in a box and he stopped slotting
Ever? Or just in their limited appearances recently? There's a huge difference and it's the point i'm trying to get across. All of those players have had periods in the last 12 months where they've been more productive than Bolasie has been so far this season. They may be out of form, or out of favour, but the idea that they aren't capable of having the effect Bolasie has had is clearly flawed - they are and they have.
Steve0
Player Valuation: £35m
People are so keen to bash bolasie that they were seriously putting forth the idiotic proposition then del played better than him on Sunday. And others were pretending this wasn't one of the daftest things ever committed to the Internet.
So basically, no matter how badly del plays the same people will persist in pretending it's at least an improvement on what went before.
Even down to implying 'assists' are some sort of arcane stat only utilised by fans with a sinister motive.
C'est tres bizarre!
So basically, no matter how badly del plays the same people will persist in pretending it's at least an improvement on what went before.
Even down to implying 'assists' are some sort of arcane stat only utilised by fans with a sinister motive.
C'est tres bizarre!
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Sorry, this season.
And don't blame limited appearances. That argument doesn't stand.
In the vast majority of games Kev has started. In the ones he hasn't it has been Lennon or Del or, on two occasions, ClevZ in his place.
They have all had more than enough minutes.
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