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..yep, and I think the players themselves will have a big say in what happens at the end of the season.

...Barcelona and Chelsea not prepared to listen to offers of permanent deals for Gomes and Zouma according to quotes from Silva; https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/barcelonas-transfer-stance-everton-midfielder-15397989

..there is that I suppose. I also wonder if the game truly matters to him.

....reports Danny Welbeck is out for the season confirms the concern many of us have posted about him being injury prone.

...and here was me thinking the time is about right to open a new transfer thread.

..i’d be very surprised if that’s a strategy, I think it’s more about the best we can do because nobody is prepared to buy them. I imagine the club were delighted to shift Klaassen on a permanent and would welcome with open arms the chance to do the same with Bolasie, Sandro, Besic and Mirallas.

...ok, I thought we’d loaned the likes of Bolasie, Sandro and Besic out because we couldn’t sell them. Indeed, I thought we’d agreed a permanent deal with Middlesbrough for Besic only for it to collapse because of agents fees.

...I’d imagine sales are preferable to loans.

...apparently Moshiri was on Jim White’s TalkSport programme this morning indicating we might not sign anybody in January; “We bought lots of players. I think we will do well to bed in the players we have got. We have a £30m player who hasn’t played yet. We have some really good players like...

..I doubt ‘all’ would have him. My concern would be his injury record.

..never mind. At least it indicates he’s very decent. I suppose the only hope is if we’ve already agreed a deal.

...I wonder if City youngsters are now seeing a career path to the German League.

..Loftus-Cheek with a couple of early goals for Chelsea will probably result in his supporters coming out on here. Fair enough, I suppose.

..regardless of who comes in we really need pace and athleticism in the back four.

..ah, but for who?

..real athletic, runs like a Rolls Royce.

..Crystal Palace Right Back please.

...I think he’s different to Gueye, Bri. I’m sure folk on here have seen more of him than him than me, but he’s not as ‘busy’ . I just wonder if Silva/Brands want somebody with the discipline to protect the back four, win the ball and give it to the playmakers. Barrios seems that type. There...

..and me. I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilmar Barrios is one. Probably worth starting the new thread!!

...regarding January, the Liverpool Echo quote Silva as saying; “In the next market if we have the chance or the possibility to improve again, we are open to that and we will be clear again in our targets because that’s my way to work.” Sounds like an incoming or two is likely.