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6 + 2 Point Deductions

I see our good friend Matt Hughes has reared his very ugly head again with a story about Tottenham being unhappy with us for saying they underpaid for Richarlison.
I mean that’s just weird and probably totally made up. Why would it upset them if we think they underpaid? No one is suggesting foul play, just that they used the pressure on us to get a good price. If anything it’s a complement and I doubt Spurs or Levy see it any differently.
 
I mean that’s just weird and probably totally made up. Why would it upset them if we think they underpaid? No one is suggesting foul play, just that they used the pressure on us to get a good price. If anything it’s a complement and I doubt Spurs or Levy see it any differently.
As ive said elsehwere, i dont blame spurs one bit, we would have done the exact same thing had we been in thier postition!
 
I mean that’s just weird and probably totally made up. Why would it upset them if we think they underpaid? No one is suggesting foul play, just that they used the pressure on us to get a good price. If anything it’s a complement and I doubt Spurs or Levy see it any differently.
Exactly.

Levy will love it . It will add to his so called reputation as a tough negotiator
 
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Conflict of interest from David Phillips KC = case thrown out and disbarment

Every minute this gets stinkier than Trevor's corpse under the Brookside patio.

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Conflict of interest from David Phillips KC = case thrown out and disbarment

Every minute this gets stinkier than Trevor's corpse under the Brookside patio.

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I'm confused. That judgement was when he had been appointed to the commission dealing with the PL claim against Everton.

He was not acting for Leeds.

Are you saying that he has in the past represented Leeds or any of the other clubs potentially affected ?
 

I'm confused. That judgement was when he had been appointed to the commission dealing with the PL claim against Everton.

He was not acting for Leeds.

Are you saying that he has in the past represented Leeds or any of the other clubs potentially affected ?
"THE well-known lawyer for Leeds United"

By the wording of that guy's tweet he still does. Not just in the past!!!!
 
What formula is this you keep referring to ? The PL tried to introduce one and the commission said thanks but no thanks we can make this up ourselves. A formula doesn't exist in the PL which is why they tried to introduce one to the commission.
Correct. Page 27 Section 13 Point 85 states the PL does not have the same guidelines as the EFL and that "the appropriate sanction is to be determined by the Commission having heard and considered...mitigating factors."

I think where the confusion comes in is that it appears that the Commission has used a formula very similar to the EFL in coming to a determination.

Point 86 then goes on to say that the PL adopted a sanction policy on 10 Aug 2023 that it considers appropriate for breaches of PSR. Confusing matters further, the PL then stated it wasn't imposing the policy on the Commission.

It's no wonder people get confused.

Overall though, I think the decision to dock us 10 points sends out a significant message and we can only hope there is consistency when dealing with other clubs.
 
I'm coming more to the view that the club was poorly represented at the hearing even though there was a determination at the outset for a heavy punishment.

The lack of consideration for mitigating factors and the absence of any defined method for applying a sanction, known in advance, are the main issues as I see it. The club admitted a breach, co-operated with the league, and were met with the most severe punishment. Based on days of hearings and scrutiny, they were in effect done on an accounting technicality.

The threat of government regulation, and I'm guessing, the constant agitation of the Burnleys et al has resulted in the perfect storm. Everton are now the scapegoat for all the dirty business ills of football, at a time when there is widespread sportswashing and questionable accounting.

Fundamentally, how can a system designed to protect clubs from the worst excesses of profligate and irresponsible financial management turn out via its sanctions, and push a club very significantly further down the road to possible administration?

There is too much in the way of prior agendas, and smoke and mirrors here. The makeup and background of the commission is another factor. The club has to defend its historic reputation as well as the severity of the punishment.
 
I wouldn't expect an appeal to be heard until well into the spring. Even if it could be held earlier The PL will want to see how the season unfolds and our place in the table. It's critical as I see things, that we submit as thorough and robust an appeal as possible, regardless of where we are in the table at the time it's heard.

I don't know what team of lawyers represented us, but I'd look at that too, with a view to change. The commission's rejection of multiple mitigation arguments put forward suggests an issue with how those arguments were presented and advocated for.
This is the part that riles me. Waiting until later and deciding a punishment that may or may not affect a club too much is simply wrong. It's incredible to me that the PL had a policy of 105M overspend and didn't put into place a sanction policy at that time. Talk about bolting the door after the horse has left.

I also agree about the change in strategy of lawyers but it also possibly speaks to what information they were fed by Moshiri and Bungling Bill.
 

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