The independent regulator was part of the Kings Speech last month.
If this Independent Regulator oversees the appeal and decides to increase the deduction to 15 points would you accept it and be happy?
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The independent regulator was part of the Kings Speech last month.
If this Independent Regulator oversees the appeal and decides to increase the deduction to 15 points would you accept it and be happy?
Yarrgh
Player Valuation: £70m
Just block the entries and refuse to move then. Disruption is key. Make their televised game an embarrassing situation for the corrupt league.
HalfTimeSayers
Player Valuation: £30m
No points deductions for financial breaches under the new regulator.
Tom Hughes
Player Valuation: £10m
Not at all. It's a rolling calculation based on 3 yr windows, if you re-offend, further penalties are more than possible, and perhaps one of the reasons we still haven't published our last accounts, which despite our relative prudence in recent windows, is not predicted to look particularly great considering we are taking payday loans just to operate.
The rest is whataboutery or on-going cases that are entirely separate issues. The whole of this a PR disaster and they are being increasingly scrutinised, that doesn't avert/negate our issues.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
I think any talk of delaying the punishment until the regulator takes over is dangerous, for the reasons you mention. It won't be set up this season (and may take longer than expected if there's a general election in the meantime and they all move to campaign mode), so it'll move the deduction until next season. Then we might not be so lucky with the teams at the bottom being so poor. Appeal it down this season, stay up (as long as nothing else mad happens to deduct us more points) and see what happens after that.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
After the last time and all this talk of clubs suing, there'll be massive pressure to rush through an investigation and punishment before the end of this season as soon as those accounts are published
Even those who are are happy to see us punished have been pretty frank about the prems desire to prevent independent regulation, the motivations are being legitimately questioned.
Moderatelywarmwater
Player Valuation: £10m
That’s exactly what the argument was (although not specific for Pickford).
I think what’s been lost a bit, is that the P&S target is not £105m it’s zero. The £105m is to allow flexibility in that, and wasn’t intended to be used as a target.
Like nearly all clubs, we used the £105m as a target instead. (When I say we, I mean that utter fool Moshiri)
How fair all of this is is a totally different issue of course, but that’s how the PL see it.
Evertonthat
Player Valuation: £8m
They're already under the spotlight for dishing out a hugely disproportionate penalty. The last thing they would want to do is shine more light on their error.
efcfanwirral
Player Valuation: £25m
This deduction is actually good for those running the club, the fans are now turning on the Premier League and no longer focusing on those running the club. We're arguing injustice over things that happened years ago, while forgetting that the financial situation has (clearly) deteriorated to an apocalyptic scenario now. The focus is completely off all that, and we'll likely stay up anyway so its not like we've been forcibly relegated at this point
Of course last season's accounts are going to trigger a new investigation. When we signed Onana etc, we all were asking what we were playing at knowing there was an investigation and that we couldn't afford it. Despite all evidence otherwise, we assumed they knew what they were doing. Add in Lampard's compensation etc and its not going to look good. I think it'll be more than £20m over
Delaying Beto to the next financial year, good business if we stay up but an immediate £30m down if we've gone down and are playing by the EFL's rules. They're living in a permanent casino, but gambling on fast dwindling credit
Of course last season's accounts are going to trigger a new investigation. When we signed Onana etc, we all were asking what we were playing at knowing there was an investigation and that we couldn't afford it. Despite all evidence otherwise, we assumed they knew what they were doing. Add in Lampard's compensation etc and its not going to look good. I think it'll be more than £20m over
Delaying Beto to the next financial year, good business if we stay up but an immediate £30m down if we've gone down and are playing by the EFL's rules. They're living in a permanent casino, but gambling on fast dwindling credit
Surely the target isn't a loss of £0, but a profit!
Moderatelywarmwater
Player Valuation: £10m
Minimum target anyway! And I suppose the PL would say that without the rules, Moshiri would have kept spending and we’d be in even deeper merde than we are now. Not sure that true though
That day of independent regulation is coming, this judgement is not suddenly going to stop it.
I don't trust the Tories to set it up but that's another issue.
A better sustainability rule would be for all owners to have to wipe out any debt at the end of each year.
Make a loss? Fine - as long as you clear it.
There isn't any legal confirmation of that, nor have the boundries been set. The prem will push back on it in every area they can and having examples of their own capability to regulate will be crucial to them. To suggest otherwise because of political posturing is contary to just about every opinion outside of kopite trolls on here.