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2023/24 Amadou Onana

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blueboy72 said:
So I call you a lunatic because we’re taking about central midfielders, mainly defensive ones. And to help your own argument, you name players that haven’t even got caps and loads of wingers and wide strikers. So is this how you always debate, basically posting nonsense
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Centre Mid is centre mid
This discussion was never about 'mainly defensive ones' other than in your head.
The only one of those that hasn't played centre mid in a double pivot is Foden who has played in an 8 role with a deeper mid behind him

If you were talking about defensive mids then wtf were you mentioning KdB for? and Tielemans is not a DM either
I bored with this now. Lets agree to disagree because we aren't even talking about the same thing
 
Toffeepot said:
Centre Mid is centre mid
This discussion was never about 'mainly defensive ones' other than in your head.
The only one of those that hasn't played centre mid in a double pivot is Foden who has played in an 8 role with a deeper mid behind him

If you were talking about defensive mids then wtf were you mentioning KdB for? and Tielemans is not a DM either
I bored with this now. Lets agree to disagree because we aren't even talking about the same thing
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KDB plays in midfield for Belgium as does Tielemans. I don’t even care anymore, I think I replied to you because you said garner was better. Which is utter rubbish, and you’re blaming Southgate for the reason he hasn’t an England cap . Onana has 9 for Belgium, James garner won’t get 9 for England and it doesn’t matter who’s the manager. Even if it was pep
 
blueboy72 said:
KDB plays in midfield for Belgium as does Tielemans. I don’t even care anymore, I think I replied to you because you said garner was better. Which is utter rubbish, and you’re blaming Southgate for the reason he hasn’t an England cap . Onana has 9 for Belgium, James garner won’t get 9 for England and it doesn’t matter who’s the manager. Even if it was pep
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No and No. Never said either of those things but whatever makes you happy
 

blueboy72 said:
Well then you replied to me after someone had said that. And jumped on the fact that James garner hasn’t an England cap because of the competition in midfield
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Not the same though is it! I said Garner has more players in front of him because England have greater depth. That's it, and I stand by it. I also think he rightly isn't in the England squad for the same reason. It doesn't mean I think he's better than Onana, and it's a bit of a leap to take that from it, but measuring a player's ability based on international caps is not a reliable measure, especially with different squad depth and different managers etc.
We see them both in the same team every week. That's more than enough to make a judgement on them. Both talented with room for improvement and I don't want us to sell either of them, but we're here because we likely are selling one
 
blueboy72 said:
You’ve put in your messages about Southgate and he’s the reason for not giving you youngsters more of a chance because he keeps picking Henderson
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I mentioned Southgate because you said Henderson is a measure of England's depth. Southgate has his favourites, it's a regular criticism of him, and Henderson is one
Like I said above. I don't think Garner should be in the squad and he has a lot in front of him. How you got that I think he should be from me saying England has great depth is a strange one tbh
 
Bought for €35m 18 months ago so still still has €25m in amortised cost assuming 5 year deal. FFP profit would be anything over that I think.

Might be attractive to the club but doesn’t make huge sense. A few youngsters at 8m each does the same
 
Goat said:
IF Everton sold Pickford for 40m tomorrow, how much do people think Burnley would ask for Trafford?

Cant see it being that far away from 40m, personally.
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100% this also.

Traffod looks like he will become a good goalkeeper.
3 years at Burnley is ideal for him at the moment though
 

formerly manx toffee said:
Bought for €35m 18 months ago so still still has €25m in amortised cost assuming 5 year deal. FFP profit would be anything over that I think.

Might be attractive to the club but doesn’t make huge sense. A few youngsters at 8m each does the same
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job well done from a DOF point of view, we not going to keep all the young prospects, but we damn well better make a profit
 

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