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American Investment

American Investment Fund > Farhad Moshiri?

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I'm not going to give him credit for having money...if it was actually derived from football, maybe. If he was interested in the club, wanted to be it for the long haul and was also somewhat knowledgeable about football he'd have taken a much more measured approach from the beginning in terms of recruitment, and also told us why. His tenure has only convinced me he's here to make a return and possibly come off as a genius, provided all the ? he threw at the wall stuck.

Not trying to be ungrateful, he actually got the new stadium rolling...but I'm not convinced of any genuine football intent due to his actions elsewhere.

Oh, and to stay on topic..."no" to American involvement unless it's somehow from someone who's spent at least 20 years living in the UK.
Welcome to Everton, Madonna!
 
Welcome to Everton, Madonna!

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See you can't answer the question, weres the money? How much have we spent and how much is the squad worth?
Considering your one of the ones who has made a fool of himself for 18 months on your opinion of Iwobi, are you now saying we got him at a bargain price?
Your a nice kid Zat, but you got to learn to debate and answer questions when you take people on.

Wait. Are you suggesting that because we have made some poor player purchases, it means those transfers were a means of money laundering?

It appears as though @4737carlin doesnt understand what "money laundering" actually is. Or its purpose.
 

of course I'm looking up her song catalogue now, to see what's most "Everton, that"...

True Blue (1986) ‘the ballad of bill mix’
Promise to try (1989) Iwobi remix
One more chance (1996) mick kegger edit
Miles Away (2008) European places edit
Justify my love (1990)
Deeper and Deeper (1992) relegation mix
Crazy for you (1985)
 
Not one American owner has bought into a club that wasn't already a top level outfit and built them up.

Middle Eastern owners have built City, PSG and now Newcastle

Thai/Chinese owners have done well at Leicester and to a lesser extent Wolves.

Russians with likes of Chelsea and very briefly Monaco.

Yet most of the PL are owned by Yanks.

The answer is NO - they buy into clubs to milk them for profit with little intention to win stuff or connect with the clubs history/culture.
them lot were an absolute mess when FSG took over.
they made good appointments and won the league and European cup.
prob not what you want to hear like.

and was the problem at Arsenal Kroenke or Usmanov/Moshiri.

even that fella from Jacksonville has Fulham running well.
 
Certainly helps though that BMD will be one of the stadia used for the joint Irish/U.K. Euro bid.
How does it though? West Ham have the Olympic stadium and while it's helped them overtake us because their stadium is now better than ours, it hasn't helped them overtake Spurs, Arsenal, United et al, who all have bigger stadiums still. If we pack out BMD each home game, what will our match day revenue be compared to, for instance, Spurs? Are we going to magically start generating more income than them or still be miles behind?
 
How does it though? West Ham have the Olympic stadium and while it's helped them overtake us because their stadium is now better than ours, it hasn't helped them overtake Spurs, Arsenal, United et al, who all have bigger stadiums still. If we pack out BMD each home game, what will our match day revenue be compared to, for instance, Spurs? Are we going to magically start generating more income than them or still be miles behind?

My point was one of global recognition.
IF the bid is successful with BMD as one of the 6 stadiums selected for the tournament, it may flush out investors.

Of course any investor worth their salt would know all about BMD but you just never know
 
It's too late at night/early in the morning to try to work out if you are having a laugh or not...

It isn't hard, look at the actual physical evidence. We have a stadium on the docks that already looks like it can become world famous. That gives us a USP for further investment which might eventually take us where we want to be.

If we stayed at Goodison or had moved to the Kirkby Tescodrome we wouldn't. Simple. Moshiri's biggest weakness was that he believed we could easily jump steps to become a force, that made him take decisions with team affairs that in the end hasn't worked out but at the same time that will have also given us a stadium generally above our means for a club that generates less cash than some that are way beneath our status.

We needed someone like Moshiri to be daft enough to do that, that legacy will set us up to at least hang on the coat tails of the teams we were once bigger than.

Flip it around what have our previous owners done for the betterment of the club? We lucked into a period of stability due to a half decent manager who could play to the strengths of a small budget side whilst there was less competition around. Basically it was a continual period of decline where no one had a vision to move the club forward one iota.

It is also a question of timing, had Moshiri taken over when Lukaku was just starting here instead of when he was already fed up and wanted to go we could have gone places. We also had sliding door moments like when Giroud pulled out coming here at the last moment. Football is littered with a history of owners who tried to spend their way to success but ultimately fall, money isn't a guarantee, however under this owner we have seen the biggest manager we have ever had and the most technically gifted footballer. He would happily fire bomb the whole squad and start again if the rules didn't prevent it - again timing, that alongside with covid and war which reduced our income further.

Mistakes have been made no question but the people who would happily drive him out in favour of 'real' investors are the equivalent to a child having a tantrum. They are not imterested in understanding the reasoning behind why things might have gone wrong despite giving it everything and missing the fact that as long as we don't go bust and as long as the stadium is finished, he will have given about as much as anyone could ever have in terms of foundations for the future.
 

Moshiri is the best owner we've had since the Moores and perhaps even stands above them. If we had any other people in charge we would still have no sign of a new stadium and we would have eventually gone the way of the dinosaur, drifting further into irrelevance.
Enjoy your relegation battle, it's exactly what you want, me, I preferred us in the top half of the table but I guess I'm in the minority
 
My point was one of global recognition.
IF the bid is successful with BMD as one of the 6 stadiums selected for the tournament, it may flush out investors.

Of course any investor worth their salt would know all about BMD but you just never know
Tbh, I'm not sure it makes much difference either way. It's probably even worse now, but the top 6 have 2 to 3 times our income, and that's before you get into the clubs owned by nation states. Football is a loaded dice these days. Even if BMD adds £50 million to our revenue per season (which seems optimistic), we still have roughly £150 million "less" to spend even than Arsenal. United have £350 million extra to spend each year than us. How can you possibly compete?

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Enjoy your relegation battle, it's exactly what you want, me, I preferred us in the top half of the table but I guess I'm in the minority
Until there is an entire culture change from the Kenwright era, any takeover is pointless. The decline began far before Moshiri had even heard the words Goodison Park. When you hear Bill Kenwright talk about his Everton mentor Dr David Marsh it gives an insight into the business acumen of them both. Their entire strategy was to stay sat at the table with the big clubs without realising their own power at Everton. Until Kenwright leaves sentiment and mediocrity will reign.
 

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