Arteta or Silva?

[blueblue]

Arteta has done nothing to get a job as manager of a big club. He may even be a great coach, but that also is different from being a great manager.

I think in time he needs to get away from City and go to a club where he can have a bigger impact. Pep is such a huge personality he seems to dwarf everybody else at City.

 

[jceverton]

Horrible, transfer requesting, walking out at the last minute, coward Rat.

lol lol The bank were calling the shots we had to sell Arteta, he had the decency to put in a transfer request to save the club money. Kenwright is the villain in this scenario not Arteta.

 

[banno]

Yes, keep believing that until he announces his first signing is Troy Deeney

Brands will be doing the signing and you just proved my point about sh1teness of squads

 

[Jamiednm]

Everyone moans we’re not going after proven top managers and that Everton is just a boys club and then people want Arteta

The way I see it, we're just a mid table Premier League club who are potentially the 'best of the rest' for the time being. We're not going to get someone at the level of Emery. But then, outside complete unknowns, we're shopping in the Eddie Howe, Marco Silva, Sean Dyche bracket, all of which aren't exciting for me.

At least Arteta would generate some excitement. It may go completely wrong, and we'd be firefighting again, but it might not.

 

[Jamiednm]

If Arteta wants a management job in England, we're his best/only option.

 

[Nymzee]

The way I see it, we're just a mid table Premier League club who are potentially the 'best of the rest' for the time being. We're not going to get someone at the level of Emery. But then, outside complete unknowns, we're shopping in the Eddie Howe, Marco Silva, Sean Dyche bracket, all of which aren't exciting for me.

At least Arteta would generate some excitement. It may go completely wrong, and we'd be firefighting again, but it might not.

I'd hoped when people consider Arteta they have a long hard look at our spell under Unsworth and he'd at least managed a side before.

 

[Jamiednm]

I'd hoped when people consider Arteta they have a long hard look at our spell under Unsworth and he'd at least managed a side before.

If everyone took that approach, no one would ever get anywhere.

Jose Mourinho was Bobby Robson's translator and went on to be the best manager in the world for years.

 

[jceverton]

Same.

I'd love us to show some balls and take a punt on Arteta for several reasons:

1. He's been the number 2 to the World's best manager for the last 2 years. He's obviously highly regarded in football circles, otherwise he wouldn't be in that position, and he wouldn't have been considered for the Arsenal job.
2. He's an intelligent person who can speak 6 languages, he'll have picked up loads from Guardiola. Mourinho was an understudy who went on to be better than his boss.
3. He's charming, which is always a good thing.
4. He's played for Everton and understands the club.
5. An ambitious appointment like this is more in line with NSNO (which we drastically have to get back to), rather than other names we're linked with.

Obviously, the big draw backs are that he hasn't managed before, and it's questionable as to whether we're currently in a position to appoint a managerial novice given the challenges of the club. But, with the right people around him (including Brands), I think a lot of those pressures could be taken off his shoulders.

He could turn out to be a tactical genius, run-of-the-mill or a Gary Neville who needs to get back to his comfort zone. But it would be a lot more exciting to have him appointed than someone like Silva, in my opinion.

Good post. I’d take a chance on Arteta for all of the reasons you’ve put. Schalke appointed a 32 year old manager (with a great reputation as a coach) who’s only senior management experience was 11 games in the German second division. They’ve finished second in the league in his first season. Sometimes you just need to take a chance.

 

[Anders_Limpar]

Isn’t this an irrelevant question?

Seems that he gave the Arsenal board doubts due to his reluctance to not have complete control. Now we have Brands in place - there seems little point in going for manager that isn’t happy to be a head coach.

 

[Nymzee]

If everyone took that approach, no one would ever get anywhere.

Jose Mourinho was Bobby Robson's translator and went on to be the best manager in the world for years.

Yeh and he went out there and earned his stripes before a big job. Arteta is known as a really good coach but he's never managed before? Can't believe people are even advocating this in arguably the most important Summer in the club's recent history.

 

[Darren Higgs]

Yeah difference being Wayne has since said he shouldnt have done it and has always maintained his support for the club. His sons are blues and he some times came to watch games when he wasnt playing for utd. He was also about 19 when he did it an arteta was closer to 29 so id expect him to have been more mature.

 

[Jamiednm]

Everton have been treading water since 1995. It's time we lived up to our motto and took some risks rather than settling for safe.

 

[Brisan123]

Don’t want either but if it’s a case of Hobson’s choice I’ll choose Silva.
I’d take him over Arteta purely on the basis that he has managed before.
However as I said I don’t want either

 

[nikom court]

id have arteta if he brought the right people in around him,
both are with risk,i think arteta would have more respect amongst the players and sometimes it just works out,
dalglish,guardiola,zidane being 3.
I assume its going to brands call that's what hes getting the big pay packet for!
a match going kopite (rare) has just told me in work that he hopes we get silva,i think that says something!

 

[Lelouch]

Do I want someone who hasn't managed a club at all to take over an Everton side who needs a kick up the bum and needs fixing from top to bottom.

no.