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I don't agree that we need to let any of the three go. I do agree however that if one is sold, it makes more business sense for that one to be Baines.
IMHO the correct move is to tie Garbutt to a long-term contract and loan him out to another prem club, from August to Christmas, where he can get fifteen starts. In that time we will have discovered if Pienaar has anything left and if not that means one of Baines, Oviedo and Garbutt will get several games at LM / LW. I view it as being a scenario in which we are actually choosing who to keep out of Pienaar and Oviedo; I would keep Oviedo.
I doubt Hibbert was ever given the chance to move to Man United
Gerbs
Player Valuation: £10m
He is really going to have a reduced role after this incident. 
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/17/travel/united-airlines-flight-unruly-passenger/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/17/travel/united-airlines-flight-unruly-passenger/index.html
^^^This^^^
Big_nev
Player Valuation: £25m
Honestly I think it would all depend on the offer we got for him. If we are talking 25m+ I'd take that over to Spain and start lashing it about in Moyes' direction
LEIGHTON BAINES admits tuning-in to Everton’s horror show at Stoke made him more determined to help them turn the corner against Newcastle United.
The Blues left-back was injured for their league defeat at the Britannia earlier this month and so listened to action unfold on the radio in his car.
Everton lost 2-0 and slumped to their lowest point of the season with Roberto Martinez conceding that the players had “hit rock bottom”.
Baines says he shared the pain of the defeat and after being named in the starting line-up for Sunday’s crunch clash with Newcastle, the 30-year-old was set on making sure that “lingering” feeling passed
And after a convincing 3-0 win, the Everton defender says it is time for the Blues to chase down the teams above them and not worry about the sides below.
“I couldn’t get to the Stoke game on so I was sat in my car listening to it on the radio,” Baines said.
“You switch it off and even though I was a few miles away I was sharing the feeling and I could almost channel into that.
“I’ve been in the dressing room before when there has been low times and it’s a horrible feeling but these last two performances are the only thing that can get rid of it.
“It lingers. When you are losing games it lingers but hopefully this last game and a half is how we need to be between now and the end of the season.”
And people wanna sell him.
SMFH
The Blues left-back was injured for their league defeat at the Britannia earlier this month and so listened to action unfold on the radio in his car.
Everton lost 2-0 and slumped to their lowest point of the season with Roberto Martinez conceding that the players had “hit rock bottom”.
Baines says he shared the pain of the defeat and after being named in the starting line-up for Sunday’s crunch clash with Newcastle, the 30-year-old was set on making sure that “lingering” feeling passed
And after a convincing 3-0 win, the Everton defender says it is time for the Blues to chase down the teams above them and not worry about the sides below.
“I couldn’t get to the Stoke game on so I was sat in my car listening to it on the radio,” Baines said.
“You switch it off and even though I was a few miles away I was sharing the feeling and I could almost channel into that.
“I’ve been in the dressing room before when there has been low times and it’s a horrible feeling but these last two performances are the only thing that can get rid of it.
“It lingers. When you are losing games it lingers but hopefully this last game and a half is how we need to be between now and the end of the season.”
And people wanna sell him.
SMFH
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
Has he lost the right to pens to Rom?
Seems curious, Rom took a few when he was out injured but you'd think it would revert?
Maybe Mirallas affected his confidence by challenging his right to pens
Seems curious, Rom took a few when he was out injured but you'd think it would revert?
Maybe Mirallas affected his confidence by challenging his right to pens
....no, not time to sell. Think the point was correctly made that Barry is key in covering his sortees forward. The Newcastle game meant that we had other options, both MCCarthy and Gibson got forward. It was a more traditional approach on Sunday, players covering for teammates going forward as opposed to a fixed cover for both Baines and Coleman.
Perhaps we have become too predictable, but any change does not mean we get rid of Baines as he will still play a key role.
USABlue
Player Valuation: £70m
boss. little confused though about the details, was he on his way to stoke and got stuck in traffic? or did he just walk outside and sit in his drive?
mkrudden
Player Valuation: £40m
I'm sorry chaps but I would have to disagree with you here.
We are not City and Chelsea who know they will be in the higher reaches of the league for the next 5-10 years because their finances etc. We need a good team now not in a few years. Baines is so much better than Garbutt and Oviedo that we would be weakening our side by selling him and replacing him with either of those two players.
So whilst from a sell-on basis we might make less money, this summer has to be about strengthening to stay with the pack above us - now inclusive it would seem of Southampton.
We don't have the means to "hit and hope" and sell the best left back in the league. We need him. If he has a good season next (as he has this season which i know is debated) then it could be the difference between 4th and 5th, 5th or 6th etc etc which obviously carries financial sense with prize money/competition qualification.
Seamus Colemole
Previously deathbyropeandglass
He's not loyal at all, he just turned down United and Bayern cause he has no ambition.
As I read tree's post it would mean keeping Baines, Oviedo and Garbutt at our club while offloading Pienaar. Baines is not getting younger and seems to be getting a few more injury nibbles now and then. I'm not advocating seling Baines, not at all. Still the first choice left back imo. Resting him a bit more and bring Garbutt in to eventually take over. Oviedo can pay left wing, so that would mean Garbutt getting a lot more games in the coming years.
Should do everything we possible can to keep hold of Garbutt though. If not, we'll be paying top prices to replace Baines in a few years time. Would be a shame, as we currently have 3 of the best in the Premiership in that position.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Cheaper to offer Garbutt a decently paid contract than go and find another LB, which will transfer fee + wages!
messymascot
Player Valuation: £35m
Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward. We could probably get £10-15 million for Baines and use that money to strengthen the team in other positions also we are probably only going to get 2 or 3 seasons more out of him. Garbutt on the other hand we will probably only get a couple of million for at tribunal and if we keep him that position could be his for next 10 years. I agree Baines is best left back at the club but sometimes you've got to make tough decisions as part of the bigger picture.
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