Boxing

[EverTheOptimist]

Joshua technically inferior and looked like the fighter who started boxing in his early 20's.

Usyk has been boxing since he was a kid, first round you could see the gulf in class, footwork, head lateral movement and punches coming from all angles, not surprised at all by the result, head said Usyk would school him and heart said Joshua would connect and it would be lights out.

Usyk put on a boxing class, hopefully a sea change in the HW division, with no big guys taking up the sport late who are technically garbage and can only throw a big punch like Joshua Wilder Takam etc.

Always great to see a smaller man, pugilistic boxer showing the sweet science of boxing in front of a one dimensional puncher who looks clueless.

Usyk Fury in 2022 should be amazing, I fancy Usyk as well.

 

[kenada_blue]

Just simply a masterclass of the art of boxing from the lighter and smaller cruiser weight. If it ever came down to boxing skill there was always no contest, Aleksandr Usyk is a much more natural and gifted fighter than Joshua, Pound for pound there's no better fighter and he's much more than just a level or so sbove, they're not even comparable.

For me there has always been questions about the mega hype around Joshua ever since he lost to the smaller in stature, and clearly heavily overweight, Anthony 'Doughnut boy' Ruiz aka Fatty to his mates. Joshua may have blamed complacency and poor preparation but that was meant to be a hand picked formality, one he should have won half asleep.

I don't see any way Joshua can ever win against the far superior boxer especially if Usyk gets his wish and it's in the Olympic Stadium in Kiev, Ukraine.

The bigger question is whether the cruiser weight can be equally effective against a real heavy weight who is a far better boxer than Joshua. Usyk would still have the beating of Fury in boxing ability but the chasm wouldn't be as wide as Fury is far better than Joshua for boxing ability. Fury couldn't be so passive as Joshua and would have to make his greater weight and power tell early on. Fury v Wilder Iii could make it all academic although Fury must be favourite do him again.

Think those last two loses show Joshua isn't a brawler but for some reason gets himself in that position.

The Ruiz rematch he played it clever...stay away from him, don't get close and box him. Last night should've been the same the minute Usyk came at him in the first round before going at him in the later rounds.

It's as though he has no other plans for himself in the ring. Doesn't know when to just step back and figure things out for himself.

Fury did say ages ago he's like a robot and he is really. That's not to say he's not one of the best fighters out there...it's more to say he's got no other ideas other than a set plan.

 

[paultheblue]

Fury must be gutted

 

[RomanReigns]

Wonder how AJ is feeling this morning

 

[DrEFC]

Wonder how AJ is feeling this morning

Rewarded for failure.

 

[overkill]

Joshua technically inferior and looked like the fighter who started boxing in his early 20's.

Usyk has been boxing since he was a kid, first round you could see the gulf in class, footwork, head lateral movement and punches coming from all angles, not surprised at all by the result, head said Usyk would school him and heart said Joshua would connect and it would be lights out.

Usyk put on a boxing class, hopefully a sea change in the HW division, with no big guys taking up the sport late who are technically garbage and can only throw a big punch like Joshua Wilder Takam etc.

Always great to see a smaller man, pugilistic boxer showing the sweet science of boxing in front of a one dimensional puncher who looks clueless.

Usyk Fury in 2022 should be amazing, I fancy Usyk as well.

good post, apart from referring to Takam as a big guy who can only throw a punch. Hes not really known as a hard hitter, and hes actually smaller than Uysk (albiet heavier )
Takam is a pressure fighter, and wins most his fights by overwhelming opponent with volume and pressure, not a big punch.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Wonder how AJ is feeling this morning

Probably laughing his cock off in bed when he checks his bank balance

 

[Tubey]

If he takes the rematch, he needs to learn how to be prepared to take one to land one and understand he's the much bigger guy. That's his only hope of winning - landing a bomb.

He should just retire though.

 

[overkill]

Think those last two loses show Joshua isn't a brawler but for some reason gets himself in that position.

The Ruiz rematch he played it clever...stay away from him, don't get close and box him. Last night should've been the same the minute Usyk came at him in the first round before going at him in the later rounds.

It's as though he has no other plans for himself in the ring. Doesn't know when to just step back and figure things out for himself.

Fury did say ages ago he's like a robot and he is really. That's not to say he's not one of the best fighters out there...it's more to say he's got no other ideas other than a set plan.

I don't think the same tactic would of worked vs Uysk, Uysk is more skilled than Ruiz at controlling distance. The angles Uysk creates with his footwork means AJ's jabs to try and keep it long were missing as Uysk gets in close, hits shots and moves out of range again at an angle were AJ has to reset and finds it hard to connect.

Chisora's tactics were more effective, although he lost to a bigger more skilled boxer might have more success.

Also, did you hear McCraken in the 11th telling AJ to stay behind the jab, and saying hes boxing beautifully, surely Rob new the fight was going to Uysk unless AJ got a stoppage at this point.

 

[overkill]

If he takes the rematch, he needs to learn how to be prepared to take one to land one and understand he's the much bigger guy. That's his only hope of winning - landing a bomb.

He should just retire though.

He needs to replicate something similar to what Klitschko did vs Povetkin, that was the gameplan I thought would have had more success.

 

[kenada_blue]

I don't think the same tactic would of worked vs Uysk, Uysk is more skilled than Ruiz at controlling distance. The angles Uysk creates with his footwork means AJ's jabs to try and keep it long were missing as Uysk gets in close, hits shots and moves out of range again at an angle were AJ has to reset and finds it hard to connect.

Chisora's tactics were more effective, although he lost to a bigger more skilled boxer might have more success.

Also, did you hear McCraken in the 11th telling AJ to stay behind the jab, and saying hes boxing beautifully, surely Rob new the fight was going to Uysk unless AJ got a stoppage at this point.

I didnt mean to stick to that distance tactic, was more to mix it up. Every round he just went straight to the middle of the ring and the two didn't move from it. Zero variation from Joshua which Usyk knew and stuck to his plan.

The idea of him slimming down was to add more agility and stamina from what I thought, not to go to look like he was about to brawl and not even have a go at it.

Fury said not long back that Joshua should've just dominate, be aggressive, force him back. But he doesn't have the balls or stamina to do that. Stamina wise last night maybe...the aggression to do it was missing entirely.

 

[arminisgod]

There were numerous rounds - notably 2 and 11 - where you could easily argue each way who won it.

You have those the other way and suddenly a four point margin is a draw.

Very, very close fight.

what??? AJ was well out of his depth. I struggled to give him 3 rounds

 

[overkill]

I didnt mean to stick to that distance tactic, was more to mix it up. Every round he just went straight to the middle of the ring and the two didn't move from it. Zero variation from Joshua which Usyk knew and stuck to his plan.

The idea of him slimming down was to add more agility and stamina from what I thought, not to go to look like he was about to brawl and not even have a go at it.

Fury said not long back that Joshua should've just dominate, be aggressive, force him back. But he doesn't have the balls or stamina to do that. Stamina wise last night maybe...the aggression to do it was missing entirely.

he did need be more aggressive, and use his size more, remember Klitschko v Povetkin, thats the blueprint he should of been looking at to have success vs a more skilled fighter in Uysk.

 

[Lee Smith]

This “career long” contract AJ and Matchroom signed looks like it’s going to be much shorter than they’d both expected. You could practically see Hearn’s bum hole fall out as the scorecards were being announced.

Fury must be absolutely gutted too, in his own mind he would have been certain he would beat AJ for the Undisputed, and he’s just seen that opportunity and world record payday go up in smoke.

AJ should have been cleverer and boxed more like Fury did against Cunningham. Impose himself, bully the smaller man, get him on the ropes, lean on him, wear him down, exhaust him. Problem is, AJ isn’t as confident of his own inside game like Fury is.

 

[Brennan]

Joshua is one of the only guys who takes on all the big fights. He could have easily just passed up the belt to avoid fighting Usyk, but he didn’t.

I don’t understand why people are so eager to tear strips of a guy who constantly takes the risks in an effort to be the best.

This “career is over” stuff is nonsense. If fighters can’t lose without being told their career is over it’s no wonder the risky fights don’t get made.

Frazier lost 4, Foreman lost 5 and Tyson lost 6.