Boxing

[arminisgod]

Joshua is very manufactured and been rushed due to his commercial appeal. It was Lewis who started bad mouthing Joshua. Joshua just responded about him as a person, not a fighter.

Also he’s fought better opposition than Wilder and Fury put together. If it wasn’t for Joshuas commercial appeal, them two would be fighting each other for next to no money.

Fury’s win against Klitschko was one of the best wins by a British fighter. Yet in the rematch, couldn’t even sell out the MEN arena.

Agreed, this era is slightly better than the Klitschko era but these heavyweights ain’t all that.

Lewis critiqued his boxing as he is paid to do. Joshua has beat one name... a 40 Yr old wlad.

Let's not hype up Joshua's CV... its as Turd as the other 2

 

[JLW]

lollollollollol

 

[widnesblue]

Lewis critiqued his boxing as he is paid to do. Joshua has beat one name... a 40 Yr old wlad.

Let's not hype up Joshua's CV... its as Turd as the other 2

Lewis was critiquing his decision not to fight Wilder and was accusing him of ducking Wilder, the whole American broadcast team and media was saying he was ducking Wilder. When in fact it was the other way round. Wilder slipped up after the Fury fight and admitted he was the one who ducked Joshua.

Lewis was a commentator for PBC who Wilder was under and was saying all kinds about Joshua. Joshua had every right to say what he said. Could also sense a lot of jealousy from Lewis towards Joshua. Not from a fighting point of view but because of the love Joshua was getting. What Joshua has done in such a short period of bringing attention to heavyweight boxing has never been seen or done in this country nor America.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

he did need be more aggressive, and use his size more, remember Klitschko v Povetkin, thats the blueprint he should of been looking at to have success vs a more skilled fighter in Uysk.

AJ is much less talented than WK, and Usyk is much more talented than Povetkin.

 

[arminisgod]

Lewis was critiquing his decision not to fight Wilder and was accusing him of ducking Wilder, the whole American broadcast team and media was saying he was ducking Wilder. When in fact it was the other way round. Wilder slipped up after the Fury fight and admitted he was the one who ducked Joshua.

Lewis was a commentator for PBC who Wilder was under and was saying all kinds about Joshua. Joshua had every right to say what he said. Could also sense a lot of jealousy from Lewis towards Joshua. Not from a fighting point of view but because of the love Joshua was getting. What Joshua has done in such a short period of bringing attention to heavyweight boxing has never been seen or done in this country nor America.

WHAT?!? Heavyweight boxing has always been at the pinnacle of all sports.

lollollol Lewis the GOAT jealous of Joshua

 

[Harryflashman]

WHAT?!? Heavyweight boxing has always been at the pinnacle of all sports.

lollollol Lewis the GOAT jealous of Joshua

I think Lewis is a genuine great and without doubt one of if not the most underrated fighter of all time but I don’t think he got a fraction of the love attention Joshua got before the Ruiz fight in particular.

ive watched both of them fight and I loved Lewis I had people , ridiculously wrongly , telling me joshua was up there with Lewis for a while but honestly I don’t think Lewis was loved to the extent he should have been . Whether it’s how sport was marketed back then whether it was the Canadian thing I don’t know and look he got more popular throughout his career but he definitely should have been hugely more popular than he was . In my opinion it’s a travesty he is more recognised as you say as a true great

 

[arminisgod]

he wasn't as loved with the casuals but i doubt he cares! Lewis still got huge following when he fought in the states.

Jesus... people actually think Joshua is up there with Lewis? wow

 

[overkill]

AJ is much less talented than WK, and Usyk is much more talented than Povetkin.

It's a very similar comparison, povetkin around the same size as Uysk, and wlad around same size as AJ.
Povetkin arguably more skilled a boxer than wlad too, keep in mind this was not the same povetkin that thought AJ, he was at his peak in 2013.

What does it matter that AJ is much less talented than Wlad, have boxers never tried to replicate game plans from other great boxers before ?
The tactic Klitschko used Vs povetkin is still the best tactic AJ could of used vs.Uysk, whether it's enough is another question.

 

[widnesblue]

WHAT?!? Heavyweight boxing has always been at the pinnacle of all sports.

lollollol Lewis the GOAT jealous of Joshua

Lewis as always mentioned how he never felt the love from the British fans. Not once did I say he’s jealous of his career but the love and affection Joshua received 100% he is.

Joshua will never be on his level from a boxing stand point but from the love, money, commercial side of it and affection from British fight fans, he’s not touching Joshua. Lewis even mentioned it in his documentary that he never felt the love from British boxing fans due to his roots and fighting for Canada in the olympics.

People are forgetting what Joshua has achieved in 25 fights. He’s been unified world champion twice, made a lot of money, sold out Wembley twice, sold out the millennium stadium twice, sold out Spurs ground, sold out MSG, brought a whole new commercial and popularity to Boxing. Something Lewis failed to achieve.

In 25 fights, his resume is second to none, he’s been unified champion twice, broke all kind of commercial records. Fury was fighting for his first world title in his 25th fight, Wilder was still fighting no names in front of a couple thousand in the states and not having fought for a world title first.

 

[Harryflashman]

he wasn't as loved with the casuals but i doubt he cares! Lewis still got huge following when he fought in the states.

Jesus... people actually think Joshua is up there with Lewis? wow

Well if they do they’re deluded but it was certainly a common if completely ill judged belief early on and some, let’s not forget it wasn’t long ago people were saying fury would lose to price . A lot of crazy opinions fly about by the same token I though joshua would win fairly , well relatively, comfortably so maybe I have no right to comment .

 

[AdamEFC]

Just back from London, got to say as much as I’m a massive Joshua fan, what a credit it was to see Usyk box live again, surely got to fly up the P4P list now.

 

[CharliePotato]

Again some people are been exposed for Casuals because Parker certainly didn’t do Ruiz at all. Many believed Ruiz won. Parker got a home decision. One of the reasons Ruiz didn’t want the rematch in the UK cos of the bad judging he got in New Zealand.

Casual, must be having a laugh mate.

Aren’t you the one who gave it to Usyk by a round. Stick to widnes lad.

 

[CharliePotato]

He didn’t have to fight Usyk, he could have dropped the belt which fighters have done many times.

Not sure who else you expect him to fight ? He’s taken on everybody in the division, the two exceptions being Wilder and Fury.

Amazes me that people still think Joshua avoided Wilder and not the other way around. Here in the clown’s own words:


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Who in his position, with the potential on a what he had ahead with Fury, to become undisputed would drop the belt. It would have been the biggest duck of all time.

 

[widnesblue]

Casual, must be having a laugh mate.

Aren’t you the one who gave it to Usyk by a round. Stick to widnes lad.

That fight was a lot closer and some rounds were very even. You could argue output was more, but wasn’t landing much, you could say Joshua was backing him up but then Usyk would land a shot that would swing it in his favour. Different of opinions. Different ways of scoring a fight.

Also go back to my posts few week back about this fight when said Usyk is a nightmare for Joshua style wise. Was shocked so many people were saying it would be an easy Joshua win due to been the bigger man. Was surprised Joshua was such a favourite.

You clearly made a casual comment by saying Parker done Ruiz when majority of people thought Ruiz won.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It's a very similar comparison, povetkin around the same size as Uysk, and wlad around same size as AJ.
Povetkin arguably more skilled a boxer than wlad too, keep in mind this was not the same povetkin that thought AJ, he was at his peak in 2013.

What does it matter that AJ is much less talented than Wlad, have boxers never tried to replicate game plans from other great boxers before ?
The tactic Klitschko used Vs povetkin is still the best tactic AJ could of used vs.Uysk, whether it's enough is another question.

Wlad was actually a top notch boxer. People forget that as he was coached to be more one-dimensional by Steward to protect his chin. He took the Lennox jab and grab approach (another very talented, but chinny, heavyweight champ). Both Wlad and Lennox became much more conservative under Steward, and didn't show off their arsenals to the same degree.

The guy AJ reminds me most is Big Frank. They were both good, but robotic, and didn't seem to have fighter's instincts when in the trenches. Povetkin was good, but not an amazing natural athlete like Usyk.

Some people say that AJ was wrong to slim down for this fight, but there is a good chance he will just be even easier for Usyk to dismantle is he is less mobile.