Champions League revamp

[USABlue]

The Americans have actually tried to ruin our game I am horrified, get the MFs out of this league right now.

Perez is the main one but Kroenke, Glazier and Henry are scumbags as well

 

[nsno-chris]

While I think this "European Super League" idea is a complete disgrace, I think there needs to be a revamp of the Premier League, it's a system that has run its course. There needs to be less teams like Norwich, Fulham, WBA, Burnley, Brighton etc and more emphasis on quality. I would favor the Premier League being cut from 20 teams to 14 teams, with more quality on show. Right now, Premier League is full of irrelevant games like Brighton vs WBA and this is not conducive for the league, in terms of a commercial standpoint.

Koff you utter lemon

the fact that a team like Swindon, Bradford and Huddersfield have an equal opportunity to compete is what makes this competition great

 

[Saint Domingo]

I could see UEFA being squeezed out here. FIFA could approve it letting their players play in the World Cup knowing that it could kill the euros and make their competition the only show in town. The expanded World Cup We get wants every 2 years could then be a reality. If the national leagues also fall in behind it then it turns into uefa being the odd one out. That’s why it’s essential the leagues don’t fold, but they will.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

5 teams qualify each year meaning 5 need removing.

If the model is for the winners of the English, Spanish, French, German, and Spanish top leagues qualify then that is a fish slap across the face for Portugal, Holland, Russia, Ukraine, Hungary, Poland, Greece, Turkey, Denmark, Belgium, Switzerland and the like and poor old Scotland can basically forget it.

 

[kev]

Everyone on here is pretty robust in their condemnation of this idea, myself included. Just a thought though . . 12 Clubs have signed up but there is said to be a further three yet to do so. What if Everton were to announce that they are one of the three, be honest, what would your reaction be then?

I mentioned last night that I support Everton through thick and thin. If we were ever to end up in The Conference North I would still attend the games and still support the team.
I f we ever joined something like this proposed Super League I would cut Everton from my life without a second thought.
Football is about the fans. I would much sooner go and watch us v Prescot Celtic than switch my TV on to see us play a glorified friendly v Barcelona.

 

[Brisan123]

They bring nothing to the table.

Within 3 years they would

 

[Dublin blue 75]

I think there should have been a different split in the european competition. I think that instead of Uefa creating the Uefa Conference under the Europa League and filling it with more low ranking teams, they should have used that to restructure the whole thing. Making the exiting Champions League with less teams. But without the founder members nonsense, teams would still qualify through their domestic competitions. The problem for Uefa is that they would have struggled to get this through the voting, because they would have been asking their members to agree to a cut of 12 places to the existing champions league and giving the premier league 2 extra places.

Now that this is on the table I could see a negotiation between uefa and these 12 clubs. If they agree to it being a competition that all teams have to qualify for, that sits above the existing 3 uefa competitions then I think it will go ahead and I dont think it will be a bad thing for premier league teams. If its a closed shop or even "semi closed", I think its terrible for football

Possible. The existing CL is compromised by virtue of having too many (crap) sides in it and too many meaningless fixtures as a result. By all means create a new true champions competition but if you restrict it to champions only, these desperate clubs (many of whom are in truth fully bankrupt - the RS and Utd chiefly) are not able to agree to it. Fine. Let them go bang and do a rangers. Confront them head on.

 

[Lord Buckethead]

Not really that was all about branding and didn't change the core rules and create a closed shop, it's worlds apart

Nah, I remember the uproar when the Top teams announce they were going to leave the League. IT was going to be a reletivly closed shop. one up one down, but it was just the extreme starting point for negotiations. The FA were threatening all sorts of similar sanctions, in the end they sat down and worked out a deal that gave the leave money for grassroots, and proper promotion/relegation.

This Euro league is just the big clubs getting annoyed with UEFA for using them to make money. Its a bargaining chip to put UEFA in it's place a bit.

The end result will either be a Champions League format the Clubs can live with, or an expanded Euro League with proper access for teams outside the top 12 and a bit less money for UEFA.

 

[wandyr79]

I'd be done with Everton, because how much money do you actually need?

Everton were founded by working class people, for working class people. Liverpool isn't a City with ties to overwhelming wealth, as a City we've been hand in hand with our clubs during the darkest times, and shared memories for nearly 150 years.

To throw everything away to be in a fat cats club? No thanks, local teams who would love my support, would be where I go.

I suppose this is where football can benefit, hopefully those fans that that do not want to be a part of it start looking lower down the leagues for their football fix.

Already told my Man City supporting mate, who just said he is embarrassed to wear his City shirt outside, to start supporting Barrow instead

 

[trueblue84]

i reckon they have left the door open for psg,bayern and dortmund as the 3 other clubs!

Why would anyone want to join a league where half of that league is made up of failing English clubs (one of which has only won a League cup in the last 30 years)?

 

[Cool_Blue]

I didn’t follow this closely yesterday, was out on a big walk in the mountains, but on the radio just now......has Gary Neville called for the six of them to be relegated? lol

 

[Deckard2049]

And what’s wrong with that
We would be doing the world a favour if we liquidated the scum
At least their neighbours and coach drivers could sleep easy at night

Because even if we remove one club from this discussion, there’s hundreds of thousands of people (probably in the millions) who are against this and will have their lives unfairly impacted by the decisions of a few elitist, greedy scumbags.

Every single supporters association has come out and condemned this. It’s also massively naive for anyone here to think that Moshiri wouldn’t consider something like this had we been approached. In which case we as fans would have a massive fight on our own hands. Yes, we rejected Project Big Picture but this is a different beast entirely.

Now don’t get me wrong, I would immediately relegate the lowest of the three clubs involved in this proposal. Wouldn’t even be fully against demoting them all to the national league. As proper fans will still go to their matches and will probably have a good laugh. I would dismiss all prize money for this season for the 6 and I would suspend their status as active football clubs for the summer. A transfer ban and ban from European competition. As clearly to go all biblical, treason shouldn’t go unpunished.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

It's pretty clear that the ghouls who "own" these clubs have zero comprehension of what motivates football fans. Honest, clearly defined sporting competition. The closed shop American model works there for MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA franchises up to a point, but doesn't translate to a truly global sport.

The market they are targeting tends to follow individual players more than clubs, but these parasites want the best of all scenarios. They want the domestic league competition, those fans who follow the club, they want the global fanbase that follows players.

Cut them off at the knees, take away the domestic league and the domestic fans drop their clubs either by principle or financial necessity. Remove the players from their national team eligibility and the global fan won't watch either.

 

[tsubaki]

Perez is the main one but Kroenke, Glazier and Henry are scumbags as well

given where all the money is coming from, I think they should bear more of the blame

Perez is just a greedy idiot

 

[mightymoyes]

I could see UEFA being squeezed out here. FIFA could approve it letting their players play in the World Cup knowing that it could kill the euros and make their competition the only show in town. The expanded World Cup We get wants every 2 years could then be a reality. If the national leagues also fall in behind it then it turns into uefa being the odd one out. That’s why it’s essential the leagues don’t fold, but they will.

FIFA are the key, if they ban 'super league' players from the world cup it will make it hard to go ahead.