Champions League revamp

[NewRadical]

Hey now, leave college football out of this!

I was thinking more along the lines of the Basketball comedy Semi-Pro, where they just create a massive trophy with a fancy name to garner interest.

Although The Waterboy taught me College Football can be entertaining.

 

[Bigduke1234]

See another thing is where the home games are played, they could easily move them around the globe with that fanbase, Rio De Janerio, Beijing, New York...etc Liverpool could do them same including Oslo, that's the next step.

It’s really concerning that that the current local fans are “legacy” fans and this is aimed at the “new fans”. The plan is clearly as you outline, a football circus travelling the World to adoring “fans”. I’m so sad, because it will work, of course it will with their global reach, but that’s not real football.

And what are we left with? The “honour” for our boys to play the 6 scabs, until the breakaway is established and then they leave? I’m genuinely more upset than when I realised cycling was endemically dirty .

 

[Tubey]

....if that’s true, the bigger implication of this is that all players with ESL clubs can leave on a Bosman if they don’t sign new deals.

Which would make sense, as players are contracted to play in set competitions. Obviously, their contracts won't include the European Super League, especially one not sanctioned by any existing governing body.

The legal question is whether the contracts lose all value, or whether - despite being unsanctioned - an expelled club still holds the licence of the player to compete in those leagues for whatever the duration is, even if the team itself can't compete.

 

[Martin Alvito]

I was thinking more along the lines of the Basketball comedy Semi-Pro, where they just create a massive trophy with a fancy name to garner interest.

Although The Waterboy taught me College Football can be entertaining.

I wasn't being serious, but you correctly pointed out that this could be an outsider's perspective on the trophies attached to end-of-season rivalry games, as well as the bowls.

 

[Wat Tyler]

If the Premier League have to give permission, and they have clearly said they won’t, how is this not the end of it?

 

[mill]

Erm... yes? Of course, financially the clubs would prefer them not to go. It'd be a lie to say otherwise.

But if they have no choice, they have no choice. He made it abundantly clear throughout that interview what the score was. The status quo is the best option (because it is, although there will be repercussions now), but he said plainly they've 'overplayed their hand' and 'united everyone' of the 14 clubs against them.

If they go ahead with this, the 14 will kick them out/go their own way. There's limited scope for compromise here because of what they've done in regards to UEFA and how devalued the EPL would be as a result.

He's basically saying they have time to back down, but they need to be quick about it.

Do people not get that these clubs owners (of the scab) don’t give a [Poor language removed].

they want to get kicked out. They want the kick off. As they are going to sail off into the sunset anyway. They want the revenues from elsewhere and a blank slate to negotiate what they want. If they don’t get it now, they’ll just keep coming beck at this.

We need to sack them off entirely and look at completely reforming the game. Anything else is just Stockholm syndrome.
they are taking the p*ss out of everyone and they know they can because everyone is terrified what will happen without them.
do people just like inferiority or something?
Tell bullies to get f*cked. There’s no alternative.

 

[Tubey]

If the Premier League have to give permission, and they have clearly said they won’t, how is this not the end of it?

People are sceptical because money.

So the belief is the government will lose interest, Premier League clubs will bend over, the Premier League can be bought off, UEFA lose power/are bought, and so on.

 

[Martin Alvito]

If the Premier League have to give permission, and they have clearly said they won’t, how is this not the end of it?

It's not clear under the by-laws that the Prem can kick them out, or that they have the resolve to do so.

I think that the former would stand up in court; the latter is the key open question, with ample and persuasive arguments pro and con.

 

[NewRadical]

I wasn't being serious, but you correctly pointed out that this could be an outsider's perspective on the trophies attached to end-of-season rivalry games, as well as the bowls.

I know you weren't being serious

I'm not sure whether the Six Nations Rugby Union tournament has individual trophies for certain historical fixtures. I could genuinely see that happening for this abomination.

 

[Wat Tyler]

People are sceptical because money.

So the belief is the government will lose interest, Premier League clubs will bend over, the Premier League can be bought off, UEFA lose power/are bought, and so on.

A lot of ifs and buts there. This won’t happen.

 

[Drico]

The biggest clubs in Europe all thrive on being one of a very small handful of clubs that dominate their leagues. The inherent fatal flaw in this "super" league is only one team can win. Do you think Man United fans will tolerate regular 9th place finishes? This super league is like the Death Star. Frightening, evil, but flawed by design.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Someone’s heading for complete ridicule here. Who will it be.........the 6 if they ‘change their minds’, or UEFA if they bottle it after all these expulsion/ban promises?

 

[Bluestar]

It's interesting, because contracts revolve around players being 'registered' to clubs.

If the clubs are no longer sanctioned, technically the players are no longer registered because they haven't signed contracts for a different competition. It's why free agents can sign outside transfer windows as they are unregistered, so can register whenever, whereas others can only move at pre-selected times.

So, in theory, every player at these Super League clubs, if the clubs are 'deregistered', would have to sign new contracts with their clubs in relation to the Super League, but would be free to move to another UEFA-sanctioned club because the players are 'deregistered'.

Whether that'd hold up in court... pfft. Dunno.

It is interesting. If the clubs actions prevent players from representing their countries, then there may be legal options.
Also, what a fabulous way for FIFA to rehabilitate itself. It can look like the saviour of football.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I know you weren't being serious

I'm not sure whether the Six Nations Rugby Union tournament has individual trophies for certain historical fixtures. I could genuinely see that happening for this abomination.

Scotland and England play for the Calcutta Cup every year.

 

[Bullens Rd]

If the Premier League have to give permission, and they have clearly said they won’t, how is this not the end of it?

Well, they can go ahead and do it still (ie willingly and knowingly break the rules) but the Premier League will then have to find a suitable punishment for them doing so.