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Couldn't the Premier league request something legally binding from the 6 clubs that states they will not sign up for a Super league.

And if they do they will gets point deduction and withdrawn from European competitions.

Or, on the back of this get a vote to have this written into Premier league rules. Sure the 14 clubs would be interested in this.
They already did sign up for it - its called Rule 9.
 
to be fair, until the last 9 years of Bayern domination the Bundesliga was far more competative than the prem.

Dortmund
Wolfsburg
StuttgartBremen
Kaiserlauten

all winners from memory

IMO FFP has a lot to do with the Bayern and Juventus runs at the top.

It's been great for us, since the pay-to-play nature of our youth system means you can scout over here at a profit. Your clubs flocked over here looking for talent under FFP, and once they started seriously looking discovered that we did have elite club talent after all. We just did a lousy job of developing it until you all arrived on our shores in force, because our pay-to-play system had been about generating profit for business entities rather than, you know, actually developing talent.

But it's been lousy for you all, as FFP's revenue-at-all-costs imperative led to some seriously short-term thinking that, in my opinion, led to your academies being turned into profit centers (as in the case of Barca) or generally being neglected. The top clubs ended up in a big money arms race to sign the top players in order to win the trophies and secure the most lucrative sponsorships, so they could sign more players and perpetuate the cycle.

The guilty party who touched all of that off, of course, is none other than Florentino Perez himself, who was run out of the club the last time his big-dollar signings failed to compete. The first round of Galacticos led directly to the influx of foreign owners with deep pockets, as owners decided they either could not or did not want to play his game, and found owners that would.

Along the way, your biggest clubs and Barca lost their souls trying to compete with the grandiose Perez vision for Real Madrid, which arguably since the di Stefano days never had one.
 
I agree. This time was a PR disaster, it was very amateurish. The players and managers didn’t know anything about it and were left to face the press.

I think the forceful response from Neville and Carragher so earl6 did an awful lot to set the national mood. I think without their lead, a lot of the fans would have been quite supportive of it. I think it was closer to being a success than we know.

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I expect Neville to continue his crusade this weekend by again demanding a points deduction for the 6 clubs.....right Gary?!....Gary?...
 

I expect Neville to continue his crusade this weekend by again demanding a points deduction for the 6 clubs.....right Gary?!....Gary?...
Does them not getting a points reduction damage English football? No.

So I think its a bit silly to expect Neville to protest something he knows probably wont happen and doesn't really do anything.

He saw something that was wrong and he spoke out.

People need to learn how to win with grace, we won.
 
The thing that makes me laugh about these supposed super clubs is that if they’re so super, why are they so afraid of competition from clubs they don’t seem big enough?

It’s pathetic.

They've figured out that football in its present form is a natural monopoly with only so many seats at the top table. A very small number of the absolute biggest clubs can draw the lion's share of the eyeballs and sponsorship dollars.

Every time you let someone else in, somebody loses a seat at the top table, and they're all terrified it's going to be them. If your wage structure is built upon lucrative sponsorships and commercial opportunities, but those eventually dry up because you finish 8th every year, you're headed for administration and the value of your investment is headed to zero.

Historically, that cycle has just been treated as part of football. Big investment is no guarantee of big results - see Blackburn's wild ride down the pyramid. It's just part of it - and if you don't like that, go buy an NFL or NBA team with their protections that guarantee that if you aren't managed utterly incompetently (*cough* Isiah Thomas *cough*), sooner or later you'll get a turn.
 

What is this crap about fans missing out if the sly six get punished? If they were banned from Europe for say, five years, each club would still be able to play for three titles every season. There is a good possibility of two of the six doing exactly that next season. A European ban would hit them harder as it would be a longer term of financial loss, a fine now would be petty cash to these sort of people.
 
People need to learn how to win with grace, we won.
We lost in 1992 and have been losing ever since.
All we have won is the right to continue at a serious disadvantage to the monied few while what we once loved is trampled by people who couldn’t give a sh*t.

That ain’t working,
That’s the way you do it,
You get your team into the Su per League.
 

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