Champions League revamp

[number4.]

I agree mate. My point is everybody keeps saying the fans will suffer, but my arguement is they wont. If Spurs and Arsenal fail to get into Europe nxt season they still have three titles to go for.

Yeah I tend to agree, as many have pointed out today, where was the sympathy for the bolton, wigan, Bury fans etc over the last few years.

The reality is the fans will not matter a jot in the decision around punishment, what will decide it is the impact of the PL and the remaining 14, they dont want to destabilize the league right in the middle of the TV rights negotiation (paused but current) and anything like points deductions, European bans etc all reduce the value of TV rights.

The most likely outcome is severe penalties if it happens again

 

[Goat]

I just can’t get my head around thinking that somehow our sport is not worse off since the start of The Premier League.
How many different winners of major trophies in the 30 years before the PL and how many since? How can that be good?
On this forum ( since 2008) I’m fairly sure I’ve never seen a Blue post about how great all this PL money is, pity about the trophies. Money is not what Football is for ffs.

For me you either embrace modern football or walk away.

We play football in 2021 and cash is king.

Would be a bit hypocritical of me to complain about the money in the Premier League when our owner is currently throwing it at us like confetti.

 

[arch stanton]

The problem with all European reforms is that they always suggest more matches. The reality is that we actually need less elite football because there is too much and familiarity breeds content and apathy. League football is your weekly fix but then I prefer a less is more approach with European and international football.

There is a reason why I could watch 3 or 4 matches a day during a world Cup. It has a novelty element and only happens every 4 years. If it happened every summer it would be rubbish and I would lose interest very quickly. Christmas is great but if it happened towards the end of every month then it would be rubbish.

Bang on the money there Tim, also crap games are part of the game, they cant all be blockbusters, and sometimes the best games may not involve the Super Special arsewipes

 

[number4.]

Are you surprised?

UEFA's whole budget is built around CL revenues, and a rival league threatened them with utter ruin. In the short term, they don't have a choice.

Now that they perceive the existential threat, I would expect them to work with Bayern and PSG to figure out how to stamp it out (which is likely to be great for those two clubs, by the way).

No - not in the slightlest - the bloodlust for European bans, point deductions and transfer bans all fully justified, but commercial realities will always overrule what the morally right thing to do is

 

[Prevenger17]

No - not in the slightlest - the bloodlust for European bans, point deductions and transfer bans all fully justified, but commercial realities will always overrule what the morally right thing to do is

A fact which you're lapping up, of course. Your club look like the hideous joke they always were, this won't be forgotten

 

[Tin-Tin]

No punishment as long as the cluns play nice at the next TV deal review. Absolute state of the 14 clubs. Dont expect much more from UEFA either

Reckon Wigan can appeal their relegation as their owner was foreign and absentee when he put them into administration.



Although there are a range of opinions among the 14 clubs on how severely to come down on the rebels, there is an acceptance that the ESL plans were developed by absentee foreign owners, rather than club employees, and that as a result sporting sanctions would be inappropriate.

Rather than hitting the rebels with sanctions such as fines or points deductions, Sportsmail has learned that the remaining 14 clubs are planning to focus on effectively killing off the Premier League's Strategic Review — which was launched in the wake of the previous Big Six power grab six months ago.

The Big Six had planned to use the review to force through elements of the Project Big Picture proposals developed by Liverpool and United, including reducing the Premier League to 18 teams and giving clubs who have been in the top flight the longest greater voting power and a bigger share of TV rights, but such hopes are now dead.

They may be asked to sign legally binding undertakings that they will not seek to enter unauthorised competitions in future.

There remains considerable anger in the Premier League at the rebels despite the relief at the ESL folding so promptly, not least because their actions have raised the unwanted prospect of Government regulation.

 

[Goat]

No punishment as long as the cluns play nice at the next TV deal review. Absolute state of the 14 clubs. Dont expect much more from UEFA either

Reckon Wigan can appeal their relegation as their owner was foreign and absentee when he put them into administration.



Although there are a range of opinions among the 14 clubs on how severely to come down on the rebels, there is an acceptance that the ESL plans were developed by absentee foreign owners, rather than club employees, and that as a result sporting sanctions would be inappropriate.

Rather than hitting the rebels with sanctions such as fines or points deductions, Sportsmail has learned that the remaining 14 clubs are planning to focus on effectively killing off the Premier League's Strategic Review — which was launched in the wake of the previous Big Six power grab six months ago.

The Big Six had planned to use the review to force through elements of the Project Big Picture proposals developed by Liverpool and United, including reducing the Premier League to 18 teams and giving clubs who have been in the top flight the longest greater voting power and a bigger share of TV rights, but such hopes are now dead.

They may be asked to sign legally binding undertakings that they will not seek to enter unauthorised competitions in future.

There remains considerable anger in the Premier League at the rebels despite the relief at the ESL folding so promptly, not least because their actions have raised the unwanted prospect of Government regulation.

absentee foreign owners

lol lol lol

 

[number4.]

A fact which you're lapping up, of course. Your club look like the hideous joke they always were, this won't be forgotten

no - a fact which I called and stuck to. I think it's insane they will get a slap on the wrists here - but like restart and the null & void debate, in an industry ran by billionaires, money will always win over morals

 

[MikeH72]

no - a fact which I called and stuck to. I think it's insane they will get a slap on the wrists here - but like restart and the null & void debate, in an industry ran by billionaires, money will always win over morals

You have a lot of very interesting perspectives on a variety of topics. I will be sure to keep a keen eye on your posts as I find them very thought provoking.

 

[number4.]

You have a lot of very interesting perspectives on a variety of topics. I will be sure to keep a keen eye on your posts as I find them very thought provoking.

appreciated

 

[number4.]

Perez live on TV (in spain) at the mo

Florentino: "I am sad and disappointed. 2-3 years working on this to help Spanish football. Champions League format is old and obsolete. Only interesting from quarters. So we thought of a format with the best clubs in Europe all season long

 

[emir]

No punishment as long as the cluns play nice at the next TV deal review. Absolute state of the 14 clubs. Dont expect much more from UEFA either

Reckon Wigan can appeal their relegation as their owner was foreign and absentee when he put them into administration.



Although there are a range of opinions among the 14 clubs on how severely to come down on the rebels, there is an acceptance that the ESL plans were developed by absentee foreign owners, rather than club employees, and that as a result sporting sanctions would be inappropriate.

Rather than hitting the rebels with sanctions such as fines or points deductions, Sportsmail has learned that the remaining 14 clubs are planning to focus on effectively killing off the Premier League's Strategic Review — which was launched in the wake of the previous Big Six power grab six months ago.

The Big Six had planned to use the review to force through elements of the Project Big Picture proposals developed by Liverpool and United, including reducing the Premier League to 18 teams and giving clubs who have been in the top flight the longest greater voting power and a bigger share of TV rights, but such hopes are now dead.

They may be asked to sign legally binding undertakings that they will not seek to enter unauthorised competitions in future.

There remains considerable anger in the Premier League at the rebels despite the relief at the ESL folding so promptly, not least because their actions have raised the unwanted prospect of Government regulation.

Chelsea's owner Abramovich got sanctioned by the UK government, after the Skripal poisoning and it forced him to get an Israeli passport to enter the country. Yes, there's the Wigan precedent but there's been plenty of cases of owners being punished for their wrongs, rather than the entire club and the fanbase. Chelsea football club or the fans have zero connection to Abramovich's dodgy dealings, for example.

 

[blulouie]

punish fans - they will punish their own owner.

problem solved

That is the only suitable outcome.

Saw a Liverpool fan on TV earlier who wants to see FSG spend big on 3 - 4 quality players in the summer and build the new Anfield road stand.

Yeah that'll teach them eh.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Boo effing hoo

 

[Goat]

Boo effing hoo

Reckon hes way off with that figure personally.

Reckon Uniteds losses are well over 100m currently.