Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Thats because our club, rubbish as it my be sometimes, has a shred of moral fibre, whereas the scab six are just corporate rat ships.
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Champions League revamp
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Thats because our club, rubbish as it my be sometimes, has a shred of moral fibre, whereas the scab six are just corporate rat ships.
BornBlue76
Player Valuation: £35m
Perez is digging a very deep hole for all of them. His statements give every reason for them to have the book thrown at them..
I was very much the move has to be regulatory and punishment could have the opposite affect we would want.. but even I’m beginning to want to see them suffer based on Perez and that comment how those club owners have shown sociopath behaviours in treatment of other clubs during this time.
summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
The slimy 6 are 'devastated', you couldn't make it up. lol They need hitting, and hitting hard, to make sure they're really devastated.
The Premier League is set to change its rules to ensure that no member club will ever be able to join a breakaway European league again without facing instant expulsion.
A governance review already being carried out by the Premier League’s chief executive Richard Masters, in conjunction with the FA, will now focus specifically on ending any such future threat as part of the changes.
“This will kill off the threat of English clubs joining a European Super League for ever,” said a source with knowledge of the developments.
Under the Premier League’s existing rule L9 there is a list of other competitions that member clubs are permitted to play in, but the new rule will end any possible ambiguities around new competitions outside the existing football structures. The new rule is expected to set out in black and white that joining any breakaway league will lead to immediate expulsion.
Meanwhile, some Premier League clubs are still pushing for the ‘big six’ — Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs — to face sanctions for joining the Super League on Sunday, only to pull out 48 hours later after a storm of criticism from their own fans, as well as threatened action from the government and the football authorities.
One club insider said rule L9 was “clearly broken” as any Premier League member club needs prior written approval by the board to enter a new competition, and therefore the rebel clubs should face sanctions.
There is another view, however, that the ‘big six’ have been so devastated by the events of the last week — losing the goodwill of their fans, no longer being part of the European Club Association, losing key committee positions on the Premier league — that the biggest punishment of all will be no longer being able to use the threat of a Super League. “The big six have used that as their final bargaining chip for years — now it’s worthless,” said the source.
Nevertheless, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still refusing to concede defeat despite the fact they are the only two of the 12 clubs still in it.
The Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez, the supposed first chairman of the Super League, appeared to blame Manchester City for creating the “avalanche” that led to the clubs abandoning the project. The Times revealed on Sunday that the leading English clubs had signed up to the breakaway but that City had been the most reluctant and last to join.
Pérez told the late-night radio show El Larguero: “There was one of the English clubs who didn’t seem so interested and that spread to the rest. They signed the contract but we could already see that they were not convinced. And then the avalanche started.”
When he was asked if it was Manchester City, Pérez said: “The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow merit, that it was the end of football.
“Uefa turned it into a show. It was as if we had dropped an atomic bomb. I have never seen such aggressiveness; it was orchestrated. They killed us. They were waiting for us. I think they knew we were going to do it. There were threats, insults, as if we had killed football.”
“If they say that the Super League will save football, they are lying or they are mistaken,” Tebas said. “Florentino Pérez is lying. It can’t help football because it would destroy the national leagues.”Javier Tebas, president of Spain’s La Liga, saved his strongest criticism for Pérez, credited as the mastermind of the project and who had claimed the Super League would “save football”.
Barcelona’s president Joan Laporta said on Catalan public television: “It is absolutely necessary. The biggest clubs create the most financial resources and we must have our say in deciding how the earnings are shared.”
Both Juventus and AC Milan left open the possibility of joining a Super League at a later date.
Barcelona’s finances have been hard hit by the pandemic, and the 12 elite clubs wanted to boost their revenues by cutting Uefa out of the equation and replacing the Champions League with a new tournament of 20 teams.
“There have been pressures placed on some clubs, but the proposal is still standing,” Laporta said. “We have very important investments, our salaries are very high, and those must be taken into consideration, along with sporting merits.”
European Super League: New rule to expel Premier League clubs joining breakaway competitions
The Premier League is set to change its rules to ensure that no member club will ever be able to join a breakaway European league again without facing instant expulsion.
A governance review already being carried out by the Premier League’s chief executive Richard Masters, in conjunction with the FA, will now focus specifically on ending any such future threat as part of the changes.
“This will kill off the threat of English clubs joining a European Super League for ever,” said a source with knowledge of the developments.
Under the Premier League’s existing rule L9 there is a list of other competitions that member clubs are permitted to play in, but the new rule will end any possible ambiguities around new competitions outside the existing football structures. The new rule is expected to set out in black and white that joining any breakaway league will lead to immediate expulsion.
Meanwhile, some Premier League clubs are still pushing for the ‘big six’ — Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs — to face sanctions for joining the Super League on Sunday, only to pull out 48 hours later after a storm of criticism from their own fans, as well as threatened action from the government and the football authorities.
One club insider said rule L9 was “clearly broken” as any Premier League member club needs prior written approval by the board to enter a new competition, and therefore the rebel clubs should face sanctions.
There is another view, however, that the ‘big six’ have been so devastated by the events of the last week — losing the goodwill of their fans, no longer being part of the European Club Association, losing key committee positions on the Premier league — that the biggest punishment of all will be no longer being able to use the threat of a Super League. “The big six have used that as their final bargaining chip for years — now it’s worthless,” said the source.
Nevertheless, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still refusing to concede defeat despite the fact they are the only two of the 12 clubs still in it.
The Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez, the supposed first chairman of the Super League, appeared to blame Manchester City for creating the “avalanche” that led to the clubs abandoning the project. The Times revealed on Sunday that the leading English clubs had signed up to the breakaway but that City had been the most reluctant and last to join.
Pérez told the late-night radio show El Larguero: “There was one of the English clubs who didn’t seem so interested and that spread to the rest. They signed the contract but we could already see that they were not convinced. And then the avalanche started.”
When he was asked if it was Manchester City, Pérez said: “The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow merit, that it was the end of football.
“Uefa turned it into a show. It was as if we had dropped an atomic bomb. I have never seen such aggressiveness; it was orchestrated. They killed us. They were waiting for us. I think they knew we were going to do it. There were threats, insults, as if we had killed football.”
“If they say that the Super League will save football, they are lying or they are mistaken,” Tebas said. “Florentino Pérez is lying. It can’t help football because it would destroy the national leagues.”Javier Tebas, president of Spain’s La Liga, saved his strongest criticism for Pérez, credited as the mastermind of the project and who had claimed the Super League would “save football”.
Barcelona’s president Joan Laporta said on Catalan public television: “It is absolutely necessary. The biggest clubs create the most financial resources and we must have our say in deciding how the earnings are shared.”
Both Juventus and AC Milan left open the possibility of joining a Super League at a later date.
Barcelona’s finances have been hard hit by the pandemic, and the 12 elite clubs wanted to boost their revenues by cutting Uefa out of the equation and replacing the Champions League with a new tournament of 20 teams.
“There have been pressures placed on some clubs, but the proposal is still standing,” Laporta said. “We have very important investments, our salaries are very high, and those must be taken into consideration, along with sporting merits.”
I like this bit a lot.
The slimy 6 are 'devastated', you couldn't make it up. lol They need hitting, and hitting hard, to make sure they're really devastated.
European Super League: New rule to expel Premier League clubs joining breakaway competitions
The Premier League is set to change its rules to ensure that no member club will ever be able to join a breakaway European league again without facing instant expulsion.
A governance review already being carried out by the Premier League’s chief executive Richard Masters, in conjunction with the FA, will now focus specifically on ending any such future threat as part of the changes.
“This will kill off the threat of English clubs joining a European Super League for ever,” said a source with knowledge of the developments.
Under the Premier League’s existing rule L9 there is a list of other competitions that member clubs are permitted to play in, but the new rule will end any possible ambiguities around new competitions outside the existing football structures. The new rule is expected to set out in black and white that joining any breakaway league will lead to immediate expulsion.
Meanwhile, some Premier League clubs are still pushing for the ‘big six’ — Liverpool, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and the two Manchester clubs — to face sanctions for joining the Super League on Sunday, only to pull out 48 hours later after a storm of criticism from their own fans, as well as threatened action from the government and the football authorities.
One club insider said rule L9 was “clearly broken” as any Premier League member club needs prior written approval by the board to enter a new competition, and therefore the rebel clubs should face sanctions.
There is another view, however, that the ‘big six’ have been so devastated by the events of the last week — losing the goodwill of their fans, no longer being part of the European Club Association, losing key committee positions on the Premier league — that the biggest punishment of all will be no longer being able to use the threat of a Super League. “The big six have used that as their final bargaining chip for years — now it’s worthless,” said the source.
Nevertheless, Barcelona and Real Madrid are still refusing to concede defeat despite the fact they are the only two of the 12 clubs still in it.
The Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez, the supposed first chairman of the Super League, appeared to blame Manchester City for creating the “avalanche” that led to the clubs abandoning the project. The Times revealed on Sunday that the leading English clubs had signed up to the breakaway but that City had been the most reluctant and last to join.
Pérez told the late-night radio show El Larguero: “There was one of the English clubs who didn’t seem so interested and that spread to the rest. They signed the contract but we could already see that they were not convinced. And then the avalanche started.”
When he was asked if it was Manchester City, Pérez said: “The one from Manchester saw the campaign saying this will kill the leagues, that it won’t allow merit, that it was the end of football.
“Uefa turned it into a show. It was as if we had dropped an atomic bomb. I have never seen such aggressiveness; it was orchestrated. They killed us. They were waiting for us. I think they knew we were going to do it. There were threats, insults, as if we had killed football.”
“If they say that the Super League will save football, they are lying or they are mistaken,” Tebas said. “Florentino Pérez is lying. It can’t help football because it would destroy the national leagues.”Javier Tebas, president of Spain’s La Liga, saved his strongest criticism for Pérez, credited as the mastermind of the project and who had claimed the Super League would “save football”.
Barcelona’s president Joan Laporta said on Catalan public television: “It is absolutely necessary. The biggest clubs create the most financial resources and we must have our say in deciding how the earnings are shared.”
Both Juventus and AC Milan left open the possibility of joining a Super League at a later date.
Barcelona’s finances have been hard hit by the pandemic, and the 12 elite clubs wanted to boost their revenues by cutting Uefa out of the equation and replacing the Champions League with a new tournament of 20 teams.
“There have been pressures placed on some clubs, but the proposal is still standing,” Laporta said. “We have very important investments, our salaries are very high, and those must be taken into consideration, along with sporting merits.”
The first line of this is probably the most important bit. If they are facing immediate expulsion then the leverage is gone. There is no cake and eat it. There is only either a slice of the PL or a slice of ESL - but not both. That doesn't mean that a club won't ever leave, but it's crystal clear now what happens and the ramifications for these clubs.
The bit about sanctions doesn't surprise me. There are too many clubs in this league with little ambition other than avoiding relegation. They won't want to punish these clubs. I'd like to think we are not one of these clubs, although I don't think we are because Moshiri pushed for punishments straight away on talksport.
Yeah, but it's the hope isn't it, and if you finish in the CL places, even though you might not win it, you get more money, can attract better players, and start to build a team that, if managed right, can win something.
Thats my problem with rule 9.
Its not clear, nor does it list the punishment for breaking it.
It needs to be clear as day and the punishment needs to leave people in no doubt.
I'd hope the league are already on it and it will be changed to something absolutely clear cut and watertight.
GotTheBlues
Player Valuation: £750k
Changing the rule doesnt really achieve what they want.. it just means that plans for the next SL need to cover no PL involvement and they know about it in advance.
Only way to prevent the threat of the SL is to empower the other clubs and take from the 6 - that’s why I’d ban them from Europe and deduct points because it stops them improving whilst letting others close the (already shrinking) gap.
Only way to prevent the threat of the SL is to empower the other clubs and take from the 6 - that’s why I’d ban them from Europe and deduct points because it stops them improving whilst letting others close the (already shrinking) gap.
BornBlue76
Player Valuation: £35m
they between a rock and hard place and FIFA can implement almost any regulation they want.. if the clubs push back about automatic expulsion it shows they are being disingenuous about saying they were wrong now... they have zero power!!
Johnniepk
Player Valuation: £8m
If that Yankee report is right ( and I can see some of the timings are well off) it suggest the Red Snakes were the last to pull out.
I bet they had a club conference on arranging the player group message to go just before they did. It's all too contrived for me. A stunt.
I bet they had a club conference on arranging the player group message to go just before they did. It's all too contrived for me. A stunt.
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