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Dyche or Allardyce?

Dyche or Allardyce

  • Dyche

  • Allardyce

  • Moyes on toast

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MorgsGoat said:
If we appointed either of these it wouldnt be just for this season, we would be stuck with them for at least the next 18months or so.
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Not so bad if you offer Sam till end of season, take it or leave it.

And an extension based on a better league position for following year. No harm in rewarding success...but get out if you fail! (Without the pay off)

We're all too nice to these managers. Most jobs you'd be fired for failure.
 
Can you imagine how toxic Goodison will become if one of these two are given the job and results continue heading south?

Especially if it is Sam.
 
Blue_in_london said:
Not so bad if you offer Sam till end of season, take it or leave it.

And an extension based on a better league position for following year. No harm in rewarding success...but get out if you fail! (Without the pay off)

We're all too nice to these managers. Most jobs you'd be fired for failure.
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Oh they are all fired for failure all right.

The problem is that failure makes them multi millionaires :mad:

There really is no incentive for these guys to actually build a successful team.
 
Blue_in_london said:
Not so bad if you offer Sam till end of season, take it or leave it.

And an extension based on a better league position for following year. No harm in rewarding success...but get out if you fail! (Without the pay off)

We're all too nice to these managers. Most jobs you'd be fired for failure.
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He wants 30 months and he knows we are desperate. Under any usual circumstances we wouldn't even call him.

He can take a job elsewhere for a guaranteed couple of years, we will have to pay him a silly amount of money for the "pleasure " of just 18 months.

What's really short sighted about this is we've got 5 winnable games coming up. We could be 15 points better off with 23 from 15, not amazing but fine, and this will have been a total waste of time.

Giving up and appointing Allardyce shows that Moshiri et al only want us until the new stadium doors open. Get there, survive, then who cares about Everton ?
 

orly said:
He wants 30 months and he knows we are desperate. Under any usual circumstances we wouldn't even call him.

He can take a job elsewhere for a guaranteed couple of years, we will have to pay him a silly amount of money for the "pleasure " of just 18 months.

What's really short sighted about this is we've got 5 winnable games coming up. We could be 15 points better off with 23 from 15, not amazing but fine, and this will have been a total waste of time.

Giving up and appointing Allardyce shows that Moshiri et al only want us until the new stadium doors open. Get there, survive, then who cares about Everton ?
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Then don't hire him. Simple.
 
orly said:
He wants 30 months and he knows we are desperate. Under any usual circumstances we wouldn't even call him.

He can take a job elsewhere for a guaranteed couple of years, we will have to pay him a silly amount of money for the "pleasure " of just 18 months.

What's really short sighted about this is we've got 5 winnable games coming up. We could be 15 points better off with 23 from 15, not amazing but fine, and this will have been a total waste of time.

Giving up and appointing Allardyce shows that Moshiri et al only want us until the new stadium doors open. Get there, survive, then who cares about Everton ?
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Orly.....you are becoming a sage ;)
 
Kev The Rat said:
the likes of Duncan and Unsworth frankly can go I don't see the need to keep them on ad infinitum - Duncan in particular has been integral to 2 failed regimes now. In what way exactly has he served the club with distinction? If the new man wants his own team in and Unsworth has to go then so be it, no problem. This is a ruthless business we cannot sleepwalk our way into the Championship in order to retain an u23 coach.

In fact if Allardyce has asked for 15 of his own people to be brought in then I would say that's actually a very proactive and positive move.
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I understand that, and it's a fair point on particularly Fergusan who I think could do with a change as he's stagnating. However Unsworth has done a remarkable job with the under 23's in bring lads through ready to be able to play for the first. Probably as well as any equivalent in the league. I think it would be completely unfair for him to lose his position to get one of Allardyce's cronies in.

More than that though, this is a club that is meant to be a family club, meant to look after it's own etc. While we are not a charity, however throwing out Evertonians who'd do anything for this club, to cosy up to a manager who's never finished higher than 10th and is after a big payday for him and his entourage doesn't sit easily with me.

I'd also say, when it's Elstone, Kenwright or Woods there is never any ruthlessness. Summer after summer they have failed to deliver and none of them are held to account. Yet lads who played their hearts out for us, and have come back to help teach the next generation (with a lot of success) are pawns in a discussion with a manager like Allardyce doesn't sit well with me at all. Farad Moshiri should have a long look at himself if lads like Ebbrell, Unsworth, Royle and Fergusan are shown the door before frauds like Elstone are.
 

Khalekan said:
Sod it, Catcher.

You have simultaneously scared the bejasus out of me and made me have a re-think.

I am changing my vote to the Toast option.

Good God in Heaven....how has my beloved and once mighty club fallen to this level of awfulness :rant:
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Everyone opinion is welcome mate. I'm not sure what I'd think if Sam and his entourage rock up though.
 
Khalekan said:
Orly.....you are becoming a sage ;)
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People haven't even considered that this would basically end the route to the first team for the U23s for the rest of the season as we will instantly be in "survival mode".

Makes absolutely no sense this appointment. Crazy.
 

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