European premier league bombshell.....

[Groucho]

This is getting tiresome now

 

[twoblue]

One RAWK member has insightfully stated: "We are more respected in Europe than we are over here. Say's it all."
I somehow find that incredibly difficult to comprehend

In fairness just read their through on rawk, there are some real loons, but most of them hate the idea.
For the sake of the loons im all for them joining this league, and then having their home game played all over the world such as Abu Dhabi and New York to help build the franchise fan base. And then potentially just moving the Liverpool franchise to a more profitable city.

 

[number4.]

Not from what's been leaked. Closed shop based on an invite.

sky were reporting a 20 year lock-in for the founder members (12) - the remainder based on league positions

 

[bilyaletdinov_]

anyone think this could end up with an almost Rugby League / Rugby Union type of division?

 

[Rob17896]

no on is suggesting they are leaving the PL, it is suggesting they ditch the CL for a new competition, with a walled garden for qualification.

In theory this wouldnt undermine the PL

But it would CL and we are investing to attain CL so it would screw us, Wolves, Leicester etc. It would destroy the pyramid which allows teams outside top four ambition. Hope their entire teams are injured for the rest of the season.

 

[kenada_blue]

sky were reporting a 20 year lock-in for the founder members (12) - the remainder based on league positions

So 1 team from 6 European domestic leagues?

And based on what? League winner? What if one of the European League lock ins win the domestic?

Not asking like, just throwing up the absurdity of it.

 

[BluePeadar]

Soccer has realised they need a new way to keep the levels of obscene wages , transfers and agent fees rising. Is it basically going around the fifa fair play rules and allowing the richest clubs get richer? You can see why team owners would want in. They want bums on seats but differant ones each week willing to pay more money. So ManU and RS are basically telling their Season Ticket holders they dont matter anymore

 

[kenada_blue]

So all domestic leagues just instantly redundant... incredible

Possible for the 5 English teams if they want to fob the domestic league off. Everyone else, it's a proper league to play for

 

[Cool_Blue]

So after the shambles of project Big Picture last week, we have this nonsense. What will next week’s big idea be from Europe’s most popular club?

 

[Martin Alvito]

They only see dollar signs and NFL money making-like ‘exhibitions’. As do most modern football owners these days. More so yanks. Yanks are the worst. Apologies to any of our USA based Evertonians - I like you, just not your money grabbing billionaires.

No offense taken, we don't much like them either.

There's a lot of moving parts for this plan to work out. They want to have their cake and eat it too - guaranteed access to the "real" Champions League, and a domestic season as well, to maximize revenue.

There's a lot of ways that plan can go wrong. The current CL format ensures that at least one participant has something to play for in nearly every game. This won't. If they play to top 8 to qualify for knockouts, without relegation there's going to be a lot of meaningless games towards the end.

Then, I wouldn't bank on the domestic leagues wanting them around if they're going to treat the league like they currently treat the FA Cup - a secondary league to be used to blood newcomers unless/until they have a real shot at lifting the trophy.

Finally, are they going to pull neutral eyeballs when there's substantial fan resentment towards the participants?

I suspect that the concept is sound as a business idea, but it's not without substantial risk of them ending up making less than they do now.

 

[number4.]

So after the shambles of project Big Picture last week, we have this nonsense. What will next week’s big idea be from Europe’s most popular club?

I got a lot of stick here last week, for saying Big Picture was step 1 on a journey for these clubs & they will be happy with the outcome of confirmed Strategic review. Yes, there was embarrassment caused by the vote, but they have literally zero shame.

This is the next step & is obviously related to two weeks ago. My guess is they wanted to door of strategic review open before announcing this & the 2 (actually 5 or 6, some with more tact), the next question is what next

 

[GwladysBlue]

The Glazers and Fenway will have a collection of plans to protect and exploit their "franchise"

Two of the most feared rivals for many a decade getting into bed together to make bank.

The fact their fans can even contemplate the two teams cuddling up together in a snuggly European competition and plotting how to make as much money as possible should be cause for concern.

They may as well share a stadium in Dubai

It’s hilarious to suggest they’re rivals. They’re basically the same club.

 

[catcherintherye]

The point I make, and perhaps should have explained in more detail, is that it would happen on a massive scale. No longer would the club/the player be able to fend off approaches such as happened with Baines, for example, and in more recent times Grealish staying with Villa. Those days would be gone in an instant..

And to your second paragraph, yes the invesment in billions in the Super League would mean they could.

We have very sketchy ideas of funds. If it's concrete it will be on the expectastion of either massive sign ups very quickly, or massive PPV sales. Again it's a possibility but by no means certainty.

It could mean what you are saying It could fall flat on its face.

 

[catcherintherye]

I got a lot of stick here last week, for saying Big Picture was step 1 on a journey for these clubs & they will be happy with the outcome of confirmed Strategic review. Yes, there was embarrassment caused by the vote, but they have literally zero shame.

This is the next step & is obviously related to two weeks ago. My guess is they wanted to door of strategic review open before announcing this & the 2 (actually 5 or 6, some with more tact), the next question is what next

I think you have probably misread what has occured.

Project Big start has failed, and while they may get demands, they are in a worse position than 3 weeks ago.

This is either the consequence of that failure- and them perhaps seeing the PL won't be moved, or alternatively it is a bluff. What I will say, is we have been promised details in 10 days, if thats not forthcoming, it's a bluff.

The other issue, is yes there's a strategic reiview, but one which was officially stated "in the interests of 20 clubs" which is about as far away from what they want as possible, which is seen, quite rightly and nakedly as their own self interest. Once you lose the jargon and politeness it is saying "we will have a review to stop you to getting what you want."

There are lots of different possibilities with this. Again I'm pointed that only 2 teams have put their name to it. If there is a bidder with 4.6bn to their name, people will be very tempted to jump. Worth noting DAZN recently had 1bn to put into boxing. They ar currently almost bankript and being sued by one of their biggest attractions. Having the ambition to build something massive, and being able to pull it off like Sky/PL have done are different things.

 

[number4.]

I think you have probably misread what has occured.

Project Big start has failed, and while they may get demands, they are in a worse position than 3 weeks ago.

This is either the consequence of that failure- and them perhaps seeing the PL won't be moved, or alternatively it is a bluff. What I will say, is we have been promised details in 10 days, if thats not forthcoming, it's a bluff.

The other issue, is yes there's a strategic reiview, but one which was officially stated "in the interests of 20 clubs" which is about as far away from what they want as possible, which is seen, quite rightly and nakedly as their own self interest. Once you lose the jargon and politeness it is saying "we will have a review to stop you to getting what you want."

There are lots of different possibilities with this. Again I'm pointed that only 2 teams have put their name to it. If there is a bidder with 4.6bn to their name, people will be very tempted to jump. Worth noting DAZN recently had 1bn to put into boxing. They ar currently almost bankript and being sued by one of their biggest attractions. Having the ambition to build something massive, and being able to pull it off like Sky/PL have done are different things.

I don't think there is any point in us rehashing the old posts, unusually we are at polar opposite ends on this one. You see it as a complete failure, while I dont think anyone opened the champagne they will see the strat review as a good thing. I get the argument about embarrassment, but lets be honest they are shameless.

Seperately, there seems to have been a coordinated leak here and I disagree with your point that two have put their names to it. PSG, Bayern and the three spanish clubs have had their names attached as aggressively as United and liverpool here.