European premier league bombshell.....

[catcherintherye]

I don't think there is any point in us rehashing the old posts, unusually we are at polar opposite ends on this one. You see it as a complete failure, while I dont think anyone opened the champagne they will see the strat review as a good thing. I get the argument about embarrassment, but lets be honest they are shameless.

Seperately, there seems to have been a coordinated leak here and I disagree with your point that two have put their names to it. PSG, Bayern and the three spanish clubs have had their names attached as aggressively as United and liverpool here.

On point 1, in terms of it's goals it was a complete failure, it didn't get a single vote. In terms of the broader goals to have a consultation, fine, they culd have got a consultation before, or campaigned for one, without uniting the other teams around the idea they are acting for their narrow interests. It's not about embaressment, it's about solidifying in the minds of others you are bad faith actors. That will reduce their influence at said review, so again if their objective was to have influence at a review, it failed as well.

I meant within this league. It is a concrete initial statement. The La LIga boss has just poured a load of cold water on it. In situations like this, if you dont meet the deadline you set, it's a bluff. It my not be, but keep our eye on stuff before the end of the month.

In all honesty, if this is geniune then to a degree theBig Project stuff makes sense, as you're leaving anyway so why not give it a go?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Immediate disqualification and expulsion from the Premier League should sort this out. Everton, West Ham and Leicester in a three way duel for the league!

 

[49ers]

It won't happen.
U can see UEFA giving the G14 what they want, the other 14 clubs will accede to some of the 6's demands because the only other option is to see Comcast/BT Sport/Amazon divert their cash to this new Euroleague.
Whatever happens it will all end in tears as I can't imagine many fans wanting any part of it.

 

[number4.]

On point 1, in terms of it's goals it was a complete failure, it didn't get a single vote. In terms of the broader goals to have a consultation, fine, they culd have got a consultation before, or campaigned for one, without uniting the other teams around the idea they are acting for their narrow interests. It's not about embaressment, it's about solidifying in the minds of others you are bad faith actors. That will reduce their influence at said review, so again if their objective was to have influence at a review, it failed as well.

I meant within this league. It is a concrete initial statement. The La LIga boss has just poured a load of cold water on it. In situations like this, if you dont meet the deadline you set, it's a bluff. It my not be, but keep our eye on stuff before the end of the month.

In all honesty, if this is geniune then to a degree theBig Project stuff makes sense, as you're leaving anyway so why not give it a go?

Point 1 - again were at the of the spectrum, my point is they published Big Idea knowing it would get knocked down, but got a review. They voted against it themselves.

La Liga - of course he has; it's desperate news for them if true and complete devalues la Liga, more so than Premier League given its reliance on big 3

Your final point, I dont think anyone is proposing "leaving anyway", they want the more butter on both sides of their bread.

 

[random]

I think the majority of the weirdos are probably the mutants who think the league is fixed and they’re universally hated.

They aren't wrong, they are universally hated

 

[OneTrueLegend]

From what I read this European premier league would replace the champions league, not the current domestic leagues. This is in line with what uefa have talked about previously. Having more champions league games and more teams in it.

It won't be an 18 team league, not many teams would want 36 games like that, there would be so many games where nothing was on the line.
I think it would still work in group stages, 8 groups, each with 6 teams, so 48 teams in total.
There would be 16 additional places within this new competition, compared to the current format. These would be divided between the top coefficient nations, so the EFL would get 6 places, instead of the current 4.
But I think this would probably mean there would be no places in the Europa League and 1 place in the Europa Conference, so that the league had a maximum of 7 European places, as it does now
But I think the Europa league would be restructured too.

 

[barneygumble]

From what I read this European premier league would replace the champions league, not the current domestic leagues. This is in line with what uefa have talked about previously. Having more champions league games and more teams in it.

It won't be an 18 team league, not many teams would want 36 games like that, there would be so many games where nothing was on the line.
I think it would still work in group stages, 8 groups, each with 6 teams, so 48 teams in total.
There would be 16 additional places within this new competition, compared to the current format. These would be divided between the top coefficient nations, so the EFL would get 6 places, instead of the current 4.
But I think this would probably mean there would be no places in the Europa League and 1 place in the Europa Conference, so that the league had a maximum of 7 European places, as it does now
But I think the Europa league would be restructured too.

What they want is a ring fenced competition.
No matter how bad you are, you’re in and you’re staying there until you mess up.
It would be led by FIFA, and not UEFA so there wouldn’t be a European Cup, well not like it was before.

They reckon 16-18 teams so I can’t see past a max of 4 prem teams, 3 Spanish, 3 Italian, 3 German and 2 French then a mix of the rest.

 

[canuckblue]

Yes, my concern is if they start playing weakened teams in the premier league.
that has ruined the FA cup, it should not be allowed in the prem

Be funny if it happened the other way around -- fielding a weaker team in the new league because you're challenging for the PL title and you want to rest your better players. Barcelona et al wouldn't be pleased. At all.

 

[Yank]

I thought I received an update on my phone saying UEFA wouldn't back this. I could be wrong as I just glanced quickly, but also I don't know if they would publically back it until it is a sure thing. Could totally see that.

 

[Bullens Rd]

I'm quite sure SSN said before that any teams joining the new super league would be able to qualify or get relegated, but at the start all or certain teams would demand a 20 year exception to that, haha! lol

 

[GwladysBlue]

I notice all these plays for power from the American owners are coming at a time when there are no supporters in the stadium to show their disgust for the idea.

They should not pass a fit-and-proper test to be a Premier League club owner.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

I notice all these plays for power from the American owners are coming at a time when there are no supporters in the stadium to show their disgust for the idea.

They should not pass a fit-and-proper test to be a Premier League club owner.

They actually want the power to decide who can be a Premier League club owner.
They have already marked the card of Newcastle. Anyone who wants to seriously
invest in a PL team will not be allowed to be an owner. The whole things is a joke
but not a funny one.

 

[bluenorthwarrior]

anyone think this could end up with an almost Rugby League / Rugby Union type of division?

With any luck, rules would diverge over time and we could even bring back tackling in real football.

I saw a 'premier league years' programme on sky the other week from the mid-90's, it's a completely different sport now and whilst we can laud the increased skill levels etc. (largely due to the ball changes tbh) that was men playing hard but fair and not being 'entitled to go down as there was contact'.

 

[brieverton]

It's very unlikely to happen, and even if it did, it would unfold.

The only thing that would give it the merest sustainability is clubs like ourselves and similarly-placed clubs in Europe willingly agree to be part of some 2nd tier structure, either a 2nd tier Europe-wide league, or confined within their own countries.

I would not be surprised for example, if Utd/Liverpool encouraged a replacement Premier League with more EFL clubs making up the shortfall and invite Celtic/Rangers too.

Even then, they propose a closed-shop with no promotion / relegation so how will the excluded clubs agree?

I still regard it only as a bit of bluff really and no surprise its re-surfaced so soon after big picture was thrown out.

Any super-league would only further increase the likelihood of 3 or 4 super super clubs dominating everything, and the non-English clubs have the most to gain from that arrangement. It makes no sense at all for a club like Chelsea for example to go from their established status today with at least the possibility of silverware on several fronts each year competing as an also-ran in a super league that they could probably never win and wouldn't even have the treat of relegation to make a boring season otherwise interesting.

 

[GwladysBlue]

Well said, legend.