Everton January 2025 Transfer Thread

[JLW]

Erm what? Manager definitely gets a say. You can’t just sign players the manager might not like whatsoever or they’ll never play them

Yes, but they shouldnt be able to cherry pick players they like.
The DoF and manager should be on the same page regarding the type of player they want

Look at James Rodriguez for instance, Carlo, go and get him for me
Benitez, I wont use him he is not in my plans
Benitez, go and get me Rondon
Lampard, Do i have to use this tripe

 

[Nymzee]

Yes, but they shouldnt be able to cherry pick players they like.
The DoF and manager should be on the same page regarding the type of player they want

Look at James Rodriguez for instance, Carlo, go and get him for me
Benitez, I wont use him he is not in my plans
Benitez, go and get me Rondon
Lampard, Do i have to use this tripe

Yes but the scenario you put forward there had a glaring error: Benitez

If we cut the middle bit out we have Carlo and Lampard using Rodriguez and Rondon still plays in Guatemala or wherever we got him.

 

[bluestevon]

The manager shouldnt get a say or the DoF role is pointless.

No signings this January should of had Dyche in mind anyway, everyone knew he was dead man walking.

You can't buy players specifically for say Moyes, then in 12 months time he gets the bullet.
Then we get Fonseca for arguments sake and he comes in and says i can use him him and him.

This is part of the reason why we are where we are mate.

If managers are going to choose the players then be done with the DoF.

You seriously think Emre and Monchi don't communicate about players before they sign them With Emre having the ability to tell Monchi to swerve certain ones?

Best DoF will understand what players suit the manager he chose and this reduces the number of players he shows the manager who gets rejected.

Yeah for very young players the DoF may just ignore the managers opinion as he's looking at the long term but for anyone coming in as a supposed first teamers straight away they almost have to get the managers seal of approval

 

[Harryflashman]

The manager shouldnt get a say or the DoF role is pointless.

No signings this January should of had Dyche in mind anyway, everyone knew he was dead man walking.

You can't buy players specifically for say Moyes, then in 12 months time he gets the bullet.
Then we get Fonseca for arguments sake and he comes in and says i can use him him and him.

This is part of the reason why we are where we are mate.

If managers are going to choose the players then be done with the DoF.

I think this is the obvious flaw with a director of football , clearly the DofF bought O’Brien manager didn’t play him . We had a different one and Carlo bought who he wanted , I can’t imagine Moyes would agree to
Come if he couldn’t have a relatively free rein .

I think the idea of a director of football is great but in practice it doesn’t take much pulling at threads to expose its issues .

Edit - apologies for making the same basic point others have .

 

[Thomasc]

Ndiaye is producing as is Lindstrom now in the roles wide, for me rather than bringing in a winger and shifting one of these central (so two changes) we need to absolutely prioritise a number ten (Salford Silva come on down), that and a striker (and huge misgivings but f' it I'd go all in for Ferguson on loan if we can wriggle out the Broja one or just take the PSR hit yo buy him outright and sort out compliance come June.

We can’t afford to gamble, which is exactly what Ferguson is. Incredible that people think it’s even worth pursuing.

As for the 10 role, I’m not against bringing somebody in that role if Ndiaye stays left. But we have options to go either way depending on what is available in the market.

 

[bluestevon]

You need more than one choice in the wide areas though. Also we still lack pace

Honestly sort the pace in the summer mate, no matter what this situation due we are gonna be short in some positions, we had a lot of needs before essentially losing three first team starters AND Broja during a couple of weeks.

So it comes down to which areas can we get by in till summer and which are the most essential now

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Yes, but they shouldnt be able to cherry pick players they like.
The DoF and manager should be on the same page regarding the type of player they want

Look at James Rodriguez for instance, Carlo, go and get him for me
Benitez, I wont use him he is not in my plans
Benitez, go and get me Rondon
Lampard, Do i have to use this tripe

Look at Ben Godfrey for instance. Carlo hadn't heard of him.

We signed Doucoure under Ancelotti too, a player we'd tried to sign long before Ancelotti.

You'll never know who is the real driving force behind a player, but you can generally read between the lines.

We weren't buying Chermiti, Beto or O'Brien because Dyche said.

Ultimately though, TFG aren't new to football and I'd have expected some activity by now. Dyche said we needed players. Moyes is screaming it. And Everton have a recruitment/DOF team in place.

 

[mahermi1]

Don't think he’s played a game since October has he?

He's ideal then..

 

[Rooney_Tunes]

Look at Ben Godfrey for instance. Carlo hadn't heard of him.

We signed Doucoure under Ancelotti too, a player we'd tried to sign long before Ancelotti.

You'll never know who is the real driving force behind a player, but you can generally read between the lines.

We weren't buying Chermiti, Beto or O'Brien because Dyche said.

Ultimately though, TFG aren't new to football and I'd have expected some activity by now. Dyche said we needed players. Moyes is screaming it. And Everton have a recruitment/DOF team in place.

Patience.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I think this is the obvious flaw with a director of football , clearly the DofF bought O’Brien manager didn’t play him . We had a different one and Carlo bought who he wanted , I can’t imagine Moyes would agree to
Come if he couldn’t have a relatively free rein .

I think the idea of a director of football is great but in practice it doesn’t take much pulling at threads to expose its issues .

Edit - apologies for making the same basic point others have .

The DoF model is designed to work with a head coach not a manager. If you keep doing what we do which is hiring old school manager types there will always be issues with it somewhere along the way. Also the DoF simply MUST be involved in the recruitment of any new coach/manager, why owners/chairman think they are qualified/have the in depth knowledge to appoint someone in this role is something I will never understand.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

The manager shouldnt get a say or the DoF role is pointless.

No signings this January should of had Dyche in mind anyway, everyone knew he was dead man walking.

You can't buy players specifically for say Moyes, then in 12 months time he gets the bullet.
Then we get Fonseca for arguments sake and he comes in and says i can use him him and him.

This is part of the reason why we are where we are mate.

If managers are going to choose the players then be done with the DoF.

I imagine this is exactly what the delay is. Davey and Kev trying to work together but with different targets in mind.

 

[bluestevon]

Look at Ben Godfrey for instance. Carlo hadn't heard of him.

We signed Doucoure under Ancelotti too, a player we'd tried to sign long before Ancelotti.

You'll never know who is the real driving force behind a player, but you can generally read between the lines.

We weren't buying Chermiti, Beto or O'Brien because Dyche said.

Ultimately though, TFG aren't new to football and I'd have expected some activity by now. Dyche said we needed players. Moyes is screaming it. And Everton have a recruitment/DOF team in place.

Think they've likely asked what's needed and put the money there to be used and that's the end of their involvement mate, if we ask for additional then yeah they'll listen and decide.

But don't think they are at all involved in any decision making on players etc.

 

[bluestevon]

The DoF model is designed to work with a head coach not a manager. If you keep doing what we do which is hiring old school manager types there will always be issues with it somewhere along the way. Also the DoF simply MUST be involved in the recruitment of any new coach/manager, why owners/chairman think they are qualified/have the in depth knowledge to appoint someone in this role is something I will never understand.

It's probs my why I don't mind seeing Moyes going into that role in a couple of years at least that way you'd have continuity

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Look at Ben Godfrey for instance. Carlo hadn't heard of him.

We signed Doucoure under Ancelotti too, a player we'd tried to sign long before Ancelotti.

You'll never know who is the real driving force behind a player, but you can generally read between the lines.

We weren't buying Chermiti, Beto or O'Brien because Dyche said.

Ultimately though, TFG aren't new to football and I'd have expected some activity by now. Dyche said we needed players. Moyes is screaming it. And Everton have a recruitment/DOF team in place.

Thelwell will know his budget and what he can and can't do,Why would TFG need to get involved?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Think they've likely asked what's needed and put the money there to be used and that's the end of their involvement mate, if we ask for additional then yeah they'll listen and decide.

But don't think they are at all involved in any decision making on players etc.

Dan Friedkin literally went to pickup Lukaku/pilot him to Roma mate.

TFG will be involved.