Everton v Liverpool. 14th April at 12.30.

[Deleted member 28206]

Short memories here

 

[Blue 1]

Still too upset to talk about it. It still hasn't sunk in. Just absolutely gutted.

 

[Groucho]

Short memories here

Correct pal

 

[chicoazul]

Still too upset to talk about it. It still hasn't sunk in. Just absolutely gutted.

Same here. We sh*t it.

 

[trebilcock66]

So......

play wellish for the first half and go one up. Apparently sit back immediately and invite them on to us. They pile on the pressure and our play becomes ever more desperate and nervy. Cue mistake from a normally reliable defender.

Jeez, I feel like it's 1971 at Old Trafford or Wembley in 1986 all over again. Sylvain and Seamus I'd like you to meet Gary Stevens of Everton and England. Gifted the ball to them in 1986 and boom, we're 2-1 down after leading.

We seem to turn giddy when we're in front against this lot - always happens.

So my conclusion has to be that we lost this game in our heads even before it started. Moysie said yesterday that he hoped to make it a very difficult game for Liverpool. Just consider that statement and put it alongside the game we played at the stadium of light. Seems to me that we played our own game that evening and started without fear....the exact opposite of today.

I have to admit that - although I want Moyse to stay - I'm edging towards Davek's view that his conservatism is limiting us. He may have taken us as far as he can - unless he learns from this.

SFA would never have sent a team onto the pitch with instructions to simply contain the opposition and to hold on to a 1-0 lead. He'd be encouraging them to apply the killer stroke and bury them. Moysie either believes in these boys or he doesn't - they're easily talented enough to have competed at every position but you can tell they don't really believe that themselves.

Moyse's great talent is in spotting talent and buying well. Plus getting the players very very fit (hence the goals we score late on). Tactically he's so-so.

But his biggest weakness is psychological. He has to learn to allow these players to express themselves and play without fear.

Finally, I think we should be asking about what Steve Round's role is in all this. Know nothing about the man so have no evidence either way. His body language and the odd press interview suggest to me that he's unlikely to challenge DM and make him change. His role should be to present DM with a fit team, raring to go and ready to carry out the senior officer's strategy. He should also be the confidante of the more brittle characters (where was he when Bilyaletdinov needed him?). Doesn't seem to me that that's his role at all....all I ever see is him taking instructions from the boss. Yes man?

Gutted here. But have been here many times before so one more makes little difference. We can use this if we can learn from it....have my doubts though.

 

[Roztitute]

So......

play wellish for the first half and go one up. Apparently sit back immediately and invite them on to us. They pile on the pressure and our play becomes ever more desperate and nervy. Cue mistake from a normally reliable defender.

Jeez, I feel like it's 1971 at Old Trafford or Wembley in 1986 all over again. Sylvain and Seamus I'd like you to meet Gary Stevens of Everton and England. Gifted the ball to them in 1986 and boom, we're 2-1 down after leading.

We seem to turn giddy when we're in front against this lot - always happens.

So my conclusion has to be that we lost this game in our heads even before it started. Moysie said yesterday that he hoped to make it a very difficult game for Liverpool. Just consider that statement and put it alongside the game we played at the stadium of light. Seems to me that we played our own game that evening and started without fear....the exact opposite of today.

I have to admit that - although I want Moyse to stay - I'm edging towards Davek's view that his conservatism is limiting us. He may have taken us as far as he can - unless he learns from this.

SFA would never have sent a team onto the pitch with instructions to simply contain the opposition and to hold on to a 1-0 lead. He'd be encouraging them to apply the killer stroke and bury them. Moysie either believes in these boys or he doesn't - they're easily talented enough to have competed at every position but you can tell they don't really believe that themselves.

Moyse's great talent is in spotting talent and buying well. Plus getting the players very very fit (hence the goals we score late on). Tactically he's so-so.

But his biggest weakness is psychological. He has to learn to allow these players to express themselves and play without fear.

Finally, I think we should be asking about what Steve Round's role is in all this. Know nothing about the man so have no evidence either way. His body language and the odd press interview suggest to me that he's unlikely to challenge DM and make him change. His role should be to present DM with a fit team, raring to go and ready to carry out the senior officer's strategy. He should also be the confidante of the more brittle characters (where was he when Bilyaletdinov needed him?). Doesn't seem to me that that's his role at all....all I ever see is him taking instructions from the boss. Yes man?

Gutted here. But have been here many times before so one more makes little difference. We can use this if we can learn from it....have my doubts though.

Why would Moyes learn from this? He didn't learn in 2009, he probably won't learn now. He never seems to learn from his mistakes, he's fking intransigent.

 

[The Equaliser]

SFA would never have sent a team onto the pitch with instructions to simply contain the opposition and to hold on to a 1-0 lead.

Except against Barcelona.

 

[Groucho]

Same here. We sh*t it.

Come on mate, let's be positive, we're above them, I know it's hard today but come in pal!

 

[Elong]

Come on mate, let's be positive, we're above them, I know it's hard today but come in pal!

This is just so meaningless right now and come May.

 

[chicoazul]

Come on mate, let's be positive, we're above them, I know it's hard today but come in pal!

Wish I could be mate but I'm sick at how predictable today really was.

Were Everton. We should be winning stuff.

 

[Azzurri]

Just thinking about how much I ****ing love the club and how much Everton always sh*t on me and there's tears.

We don't ****ing deserve this. We're ****ing Everton and we deserve to be one of the best teams in the country. I'm sick of spending a grand a year to watch this sh*t!

 

[chrismanduk]

We have the bad days so that we can appreciate the good one's.

That's why nobody parties like Evertonians do.

 

[Azzurri]

17 years old and crying over football.

Everton never fail to let you down. They give you hope, then expectation and then proceed to sh*t all over you.

 

[bluejock]

Right, I'm drunk so this'll be a rant.

Today was magnificent. Until 13.30. We f*cking sh*t it second half. Bottled it. I'm sorry but the only thing I can see is we changed from going at them to sitting deep and backing off. That MUST be Moyes telling them to "protect" the lead.

How many times have we seen it? Why do Everton never go for the second goal when it really matters?

Those utter f*cking no marks were there for the taking today and we choked. The f*cking tw*ts. All that effort Blues made to get to the game, by hook or by crook and they let us down.

There's no way back from this. Moyes CANNOT beat Liverpool when it's there for the taking. That isn't good enough. Thanks for all your work Davey and for what you've done for the club but doing well on a small budget isn't enough for me. It's not enough for Everton. We want shiny f*cking pots and parades and honours.

Sorry, I'm hammered.

Koff Ebepton. Koff Moyes.

I love Everton.

Ffs kev

 

[Groucho]

Wish I could be mate but I'm sick at how predictable today really was.

Were Everton. We should be winning stuff.

You're right, we should be winning stuff. I agree