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Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

  • Pleased

    Votes: 107 7.7%
  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,290 92.3%

  • Total voters
    1,397
Whilst Daves stance may seen hostile to most, its hard to argue with, given the actual evidence we have :

Not a single penny spent on players
Not a single spade in the ground with regards the stadium

So currently hes actually spot on.

Stadium news and a serious transfer spend in the summer will of course "fix" all that, but currently, Moshiri has done the grand sum of ZERO, bar employ some serious PR team.
Thank you.
 
He's provided words at this stage and his helpers in the local media and on forums like this have spun them for him.

Here's where we are substantially: not one inch further forward in terms of a leap in net spending; not one inch further forward on a stadium; not one inch further on from the commercial mess this club has always been in; not one inch forward in terms of the calibre of men running this club on a day-to-day basis.

Here's what's substantially happened: we now owe a massive debt to Moshiri and not the outside body that the securitization deal debt was owed to. That will be paid back. It's not a gift. It's a debt that's just taken on a different form.

That is it.

Dave - wrong, wrong and wrong. You are simply and utterly wrong on all of those points. If you can't see that progress (let alone 'not an inch') has been made on these 3 fronts then there really is no point whatsoever in engaging with you.

There's none so blind as those who simply will not see.
 
Dave - wrong, wrong and wrong. You are simply and utterly wrong on all of those points. If you can't see that progress (let alone 'not an inch') has been made on these 3 fronts then there really is no point whatsoever in engaging with you.

There's none so blind as those who simply will not see.
It's spin mate. Just saying we've made progress doesn't make it so.

Here's what must happen:

we need commercial deals from somewhere (apparently this is Moshiri's whole world and his area of expertise) to spend on the squad

we need a stadium scheme up and running

we need a top CEO in the job at Goodison, a man with vision and industry experience who can get a masterplan done

If you dont get all that in place it's been a waste of time.
 
Dave - wrong, wrong and wrong. You are simply and utterly wrong on all of those points. If you can't see that progress (let alone 'not an inch') has been made on these 3 fronts then there really is no point whatsoever in engaging with you.

There's none so blind as those who simply will not see.

What progress has been made with regards commercial deals mate?

What progress has been made with regards a stadium?

Why have we spent MINUS 8m in Moshiris time at the club?

You see you are guilty of falling for the lies you have been told, show some tangible progress of improvement off the pitch, its not about what you know, its about what you can prove.
 
Whilst Daves stance may seen hostile to most, its hard to argue with, given the actual evidence we have :

Not a single penny spent on players
Not a single spade in the ground with regards the stadium

So currently hes actually spot on.

Stadium news and a serious transfer spend in the summer will of course "fix" all that, but currently, Moshiri has done the grand sum of ZERO, bar employ some serious PR team.
We were in the position to sack RM and pay his compensation. Would we have been able to do that without his money? Surely we have made progress just by getting rid of RM.
 

Not a single penny spent on players

Not true:
Income 18 £47.86m
Expenditures 16 £73.02m
Total results £-25.16m

source - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/everton-fc/transfers/verein/29

A few issues - it doesn't include the fee we received for Gibson and Oviedo but this is more or less offset by the fact in doesn't include the loan fee will have paid west ham. However, it also hasn't deducted the cut Barnsley will have taken for Stones.

Also, we would have paid a number of signing bonuses and agent fees etc for the players coming.

Then you add in the substantial cost of removing Martinez and his staff plus installing Koeman etc.
 
Whilst Daves stance may seen hostile to most, its hard to argue with, given the actual evidence we have :

Not a single penny spent on players
Not a single spade in the ground with regards the stadium

So currently hes actually spot on.

Stadium news and a serious transfer spend in the summer will of course "fix" all that, but currently, Moshiri has done the grand sum of ZERO, bar employ some serious PR team.
Not a single penny spent on players?

Schneid - 24m
Lookman - 10m
Bolas - 28m
Williams -10m
Gueye- 8m

We sold stones as he wanted to leave to join guardiola. Or are you just ignoring that, like with all the spending above.

There is ffp. You're ignoring that too.

Boohoo spend more money on anyone. Boohoo. Anyone. Spend.
 
What progress has been made with regards commercial deals mate?

What progress has been made with regards a stadium?

Why have we spent MINUS 8m in Moshiris time at the club?

You see you are guilty of falling for the lies you have been told, show some tangible progress of improvement off the pitch, its not about what you know, its about what you can prove.

I haven't been told any lies mate. No one at the club told me any of the stuff that it is claimed by Dave and others on here have been 'promised' by the club. And I don't mean the luvvy 'watch this space' kind of announcement. Moshiri didn't promise anyone anything specific when he arrived - if he did, show me the quote with the deadline.

And yet you would have us believe that everything was carved in stone like commandments - with cast iron time lines. This just doesn't exist.

You could argue, reasonably, that your expectations of progress have not been matched, but your expectation line in all probability has nothing in common with Moshiri's And that's likely because you have no idea what his specific plans and machinations are.

I suggest you all cut yourselves some slack and take note of the new Finch Farm sponsorship, the new shirt sponsorship deal (together £75m over the next 5 years), the replacement of £54m of expensive bank and securitisation debt with an interest free loan that saves in the order of £8m per year, the very publicly augmented plans to acquire Bramley Moor dock, the replacement of key board and executive members of the club with individuals who have started to turn the ship around commercially (see above), the replacement of a witless management team with no plan B with a manager and team that have instilled a winning (and a not-losing) attitude into the squad and has been necessarily ruthless in weeding out players that are not good enough to take up a shirt number. You could also take note of the fortuitous £47m fee we received for Stones, which looks a steal, and assume that without that we would not have spent as much as that on new players, but you have absolutely no evidence at all that we wouldn't have spent that without the Stones money (unless FFP or whatever would have prevented us). You just assume that and so claim Moshiri is here to asset strip us and not contribute to something he invested £70 odd million of his own money into.

But no, you want the finished super-team, super-stadium and super-global business model in place before you believe a single thing is happening - and by tomorrow.

Ffs...
 

Not true:
Income 18 £47.86m
Expenditures 16 £73.02m
Total results £-25.16m

source - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/everton-fc/transfers/verein/29

A few issues - it doesn't include the fee we received for Gibson and Oviedo but this is more or less offset by the fact in doesn't include the loan fee will have paid west ham. However, it also hasn't deducted the cut Barnsley will have taken for Stones.

Also, we would have paid a number of signing bonuses and agent fees etc for the players coming.

Then you add in the substantial cost of removing Martinez and his staff plus installing Koeman etc.
Not a single penny spent on players?

Schneid - 24m
Lookman - 10m
Bolas - 28m
Williams -10m
Gueye- 8m

We sold stones as he wanted to leave to join guardiola. Or are you just ignoring that, like with all the spending above.

There is ffp. You're ignoring that too.

Boohoo spend more money on anyone. Boohoo. Anyone. Spend.

Our player trading currently sits at minus 8m.

Im not saying just buy anybody, im aware of why we havent spent, you seem to have it wrong, im NOT anti-Moshiri, its MY view he will be the best thing to happen to this club this century.

Im just saying that currently, if you put what hes done on the table, theres not a lot to look at.

The majority of the fanbase are guilty of falling for the propagana that Moshiri and his people have put in the mainstream with some well placed jarg ITKs on twitter and fan forums.

Dont be a sheep, be a wolf.
 
Not true:
Income 18 £47.86m
Expenditures 16 £73.02m
Total results £-25.16m

source - http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/everton-fc/transfers/verein/29

A few issues - it doesn't include the fee we received for Gibson and Oviedo but this is more or less offset by the fact in doesn't include the loan fee will have paid west ham. However, it also hasn't deducted the cut Barnsley will have taken for Stones.

Also, we would have paid a number of signing bonuses and agent fees etc for the players coming.

Then you add in the substantial cost of removing Martinez and his staff plus installing Koeman etc.
Thank you.

Saved me a load of writing with this. Bang on the money.

The question is simple, would what has changed HAVE changed were it still Kenwright calling the shots? Without a Crystal ball no one can say, but it'd be fair to suggest not. THAT IS CHANGE.

And it hasn't even been a year yet.

:cheers:
 
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Our player trading currently sits at minus 8m.

Im not saying just buy anybody, im aware of why we havent spent, you seem to have it wrong, im NOT anti-Moshiri, its MY view he will be the best thing to happen to this club this century.

Im just saying that currently, if you put what hes done on the table, theres not a lot to look at.

The majority of the fanbase are guilty of falling for the propagana that Moshiri and his people have put in the mainstream with some well placed jarg ITKs on twitter and fan forums.

Dont be a sheep, be a wolf.
Jesus h Christ
You said not a single penny. Anyway. Why should they tell us about the ground before its ready to announce? Oh it's a conspiracy. Right.
 
Our player trading currently sits at minus 8m.

I have no idea how accurate that is, and dont really care. Cos the way I see it is that someone else has paid us £8m to vastly improve the first team, and get rid of pretty much every player who was nowhere near our new first team standard.

Lob in the usual Koeman/Walsh/Compo cash, and I reckon that aint to shabby a piece of work.
 

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