Farhad Moshiri

[degsy]

Yes it is. That's not my issue with this. My issue is that we have an owner, just like the reds and the Mancs, who will be taking money out (when he sells) not putting it in.
If Bill had put this deal together people would be screaming blue murder

1) Maybe / Maybe not, but he didn't...he didn't do anything - that's the whole point.
Except.
He bought his shares buy loading debt on to the Club - then 15-20 yrs down the track got extremely lucky and made a mint.
He oversaw a Litany of Failures - and one of Fortress, KD, DK, WHP, would've seen him out in the real world
Then there's VIBAC...even down to the Park End Wall and the lagging in the bogs.

2) Shock - Horror; Billionaire business man 'invests' for a profit.

3) We probably will agree to differ on this

 

[Kev50]

£80m is peanuts? Ok mate.

For him to get hold of 80m borrowed at one percent will cost him less Ham a million a year. That's peanuts in football

 

[maccavennie]

lol wtf lol

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

For him to get hold of 80m borrowed at one percent will cost him less Ham a million a year. That's peanuts in football

But he's put it into the club with no interest, so even if that was correct, he'd be paying cash every year for funds he'd put into the club for an annual return of £0

As it is, I think you'll find it was his own cash not borrowed funds

 

[The binman chronicles]

We all should just be thankful we are at least not treading water like have been for the last 20 something years.

I'm not actually sure i would be that bothered if the plan for a new stadium on the docks was even riskier than this one is. (That would be Moshiri paying for it then expecting to make it back when selling the club, if he couldn't then i guess he would resort to withholding TV money/selling players until he felt he broke even)

The bottom line he is giving us a chance not only to move to a dream location, this could be the start of taking back the city as the number 1 team.

Enjoy it and leave the calculations to the correct people. If this fails and he leaves the next scheme could be another one to take us to Kirkby to play in the Tesco Value Superdome. That's why i'm backing the Mosh.

 

[JLW]

The constant bitching at Dave is becoming even more tedious than his drivel. A certain few seem to post nothing but bitching. You know who you are.

YAWN

What comes first the bitching or the drivel?

 

[duncs pigeon]

I see as per usual @davek doesn't answer posts he can't argue against..

I've asked twice now who exactly should pay for the stadium Dave but you just ignore it and go on with your pathetic WUM agenda..

I will ask for a third time.. . Who exactly should pay for the stadium Dave? Everton or moshiri? I for one think Everton should pay as it's their home or will be... I don't expect anyone else to pay for my house.

Moshiri is giving is the most affordable and easy way to pay for a stadium within our means.. or would you rather we pay it off in 5 years at a cost to onfield performance? Because if that happened you would scream blue murder too. Like everyone with an agenda.. reason doesn't work, you are just blinkered.

He wont answer you mate. He is a WUM and wouldnt surprise me if hes a RS.

 

[Kev50]

But he's put it into the club with no interest, so even if that was correct, he'd be paying cash every year for funds he'd put into the club for an annual return of £0

As it is, I think you'll find it was his own cash not borrowed funds

Yes if he borrows at one percent and then doesn't pass that rate on to us then it works out about 800g a year that we are benefitting from. Peanuts.
We can't possibly know where that money came from, his finances will be multi layered, but if it's not borrowed I would be very surprised, given how low the rates are at the mo

 

[mahermi1]

Interest free loans to Everton were good enough for our best ever chairman, Sir John Moores, so why not Moshiri ?

 

[nsno-chris]

Interest free loans to Everton were good enough for our best ever chairman, Sir John Moores, so why not Moshiri ?

Becuase it doesn't fit the agenda

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Yes if he borrows at one percent and then doesn't pass that rate on to us then it works out about 800g a year that we are benefitting from. Peanuts.
We can't possibly know where that money came from, his finances will be multi layered, but if it's not borrowed I would be very surprised, given how low the rates are at the mo

So let me get this right, if he's paying £800k a year out of his own pocket to provide the club with a zero cost loan that has cleared our debt and made the potential move to BMD possible by removing the securitisation on Goodison and our future ST sales, this isn't a good thing? And it's not him putting money into the club?

How do you think any business owner invests into their own business?

 

[mightymoyes]

So,
Kenwright Invested nowt.
&
Moshiri's Invested nowt

Though he does seem to get more value for his nowt than Kenwright did for his...and he didn't/hasn't - yet load the Club up with debt...we had little or no debt when Bill took over, maybe he was just unlucky being Chairman at the time he was and Moshiri is just dead jammy and came in at the right time.
Maybe If Kenwright hadn't totally done in the collective heads at LCC over the years. AND had the wit to come up with the Moshiri financial Method involving the Council.

he was very lucky, if he wasnt chairman in the premier league era with all its riches, everton would in all likelihood have went bankrupt under the clown.

 

[Kenshin]

The simple thing is that with the announcement last week it shows real intention by the club and more importantly the board to get a new stadium. The kings dock was a shambles and both Kirby and WHP were just half arsed attempts to get a new stadium on the cheap with no real plan other than hope that someone paid it for us. So coming out like this and putting the intentions out there is a bold move by the board and not one they would have done without faith in succeeding.

But more onto the point, why be negative about it? It may cost 300 million going forward right? For a boss stadium and potentially an arena. Except Moshiri isn't short of friends to put their money in their pocket, last time i checked some of those put up 75 million out of the blue partly to sponsor a training ground. Combine that with the fact one of these 'friends' owns a construction company, which i am sure would qualify some friends discount for the supplies means this 300 million actually may not be 300 million in the general sense. Plus naming rights for the stadium, perhaps even a 10 year deal will probably generate a huge sum there, and all of a sudden this stadium stops being ambitious and starts being very realistic.

 

[Gladystweet]

49% of Mosh is better than 100% Bill and his chums. He's been here 5 mins and we're making progress. Dare I say, more progress than in the last 20 years or so.
It's easy to be pessimistic while supporting the Blues, but I'm happy with what I'm seeing so far. Let's see what happens hey.....?

 

[chippy1722]

He's put more into the club in a year than Kenwright probably has in 20. I'm sure Bill will walk away with a higher percentage of Profit than Moshiri ever will.