Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

  • Pleased

    Votes: 110 7.8%

  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,298 92.2%
  • Total voters
    1,408
Blusky said:
Sam was the right call?????? Never. You think there wasn’t another manager that could have done what he’s done or better? There is absolutely no way on this earth anyone could ever say that Sam was the right call. He’s one of the worst appointments that’s ever been. The majority (all?) want him out 3 months in!!! In what way can you say that his appointment was right?
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I'm one of those people who want him out.

You have to look at it from a risk reward perspective. Sam practically guaranteed safety, another manager there wasn't the same guarantee and relegation was too big a risk.

Had we gone down I doubt any of our contracts had relegation clauses so we would have had to have a fire sale, loan them out (requiring new players) or pay them crazy wages for the income we would have received.

Then there's the stadium.

I know most managers would have also seen us safe and I wanted Silva first but with him unavailable I just wanted to make sure we could get through this disaster of a season without having it ruin the club.

Then on the other side what upshot was there getting someone other than Sam?

What good manager would have come to us midtable in the state where we were in?

Anyone we would have got wouldn't be good enough. They may have lasted longer but if they aren't the right choice that's another downside because it would then also ruin next season.

The last thing I want is to be stuck with is Moyes or Sean Dyche etc.
 

Blusky said:
I don’t and cant go along with the ‘Sam guarantees safety’ argument. There are no guarantees. I’d guarantee that unsy would have kept us then. Some people seem to think that it was Sam or relegation, which is ridiculous IMO. Any decent manager could have come in and done what he’s done.
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I'm not saying Sam guaranteed safety or unsworth would have relegated us. I'm saying the risk is greater with Unsworth and the reward wasn't worth that risk given the cost of relegation.
 

4737carlin said:
Yep I do, something that didnt happen, unlike these that did, and really shouldnt of done, ok maybe not so much Koeman but Walsh? And Sam is as low as we have been for a long time.
Yeah the dock didnt happen, neither did the relegation worry we had earlier this season and being in such a mess we needed Sam to save us
Bill was working pre sky money, Moshiri has no financial worries at all
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Relegation worry never happened with bill? Yeah 17th on 39 points Moyes second full season ring a bell, selling Rooney the best player we've produced ever ring a bell too?
 
bluestevon said:
Relegation worry never happened with bill? Yeah 17th on 39 points Moyes second full season ring a bell, selling Rooney the best player we've produced ever ring a bell too?
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Nope

The season we came 17th, if you are talking 2004 we hardly won in the final 2 months of that season but the bottom three sides were cut a drift so we didnt really have to fear going down in the same way we might of done if an uninterested Koeman had stuck around, not once under Bill did we fear relegation. We might of had poor seasons but the drop wasnt a serious worry
Besides, does the name Philip Carter ring any bells? Because he was the chairman that season anyway
As for selling Rooney, you mean because we had to to pay debt to the bank, does the name Peter Johnson ring any bells? Because he was responsible for that financial mess that needed sorting, besides the 39 points season you talk about Rooney was still at the club, the season he left we came 4th?
 
4737carlin said:
Nope

The season we came 17th, if you are talking 2004 we hardly won in the final 2 months of that season but the bottom three sides were cut a drift so we didnt really have to fear going down in the same way we might of done if an uninterested Koeman had stuck around, not once under Bill did we fear relegation. We might of had poor seasons but the drop wasnt a serious worry
Besides, does the name Philip Carter ring any bells? Because he was the chairman that season anyway
As for selling Rooney, you mean because we had to to pay debt to the bank, does the name Peter Johnson ring any bells? Because he was responsible for that financial mess that needed sorting, besides the 39 points season you talk about Rooney was still at the club, the season he left we came 4th?
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Didn't have any fear of going down, hmmm, with 4 games left all the teams who went down could still have overtaken us, with 3 left wqe where 7 ahead of Leeds and as you said yourself - we couldn't buy a result the last two months, IF any of those 3 teams would have went on a run like teams have at that point of the season - we'd have been screwed.

Yeah the name Carter rings a bell, in which case mate, IF as you're suggesting Bill wasn't in charge, then why you always give him the credit for hiring Moyes then? surely can't give him credit for one thing and put the blame for others elsewhere - unless you're wanting to portray something better than it was?

Yeah Johnson rings a bell mate, couldn't stand the bloke and took part in stuff that went on at the time to show we wanted him gone.

Fully aware we sold Rooney and finished 4th that season mate, fully aware as well that the season we finished 4th that we also sold our most influential player in January to Real Madrid - which in any other season given the way our form dropped after selling him would have seen us limp home about 7th.

Fully aware that anyone who thinks Kenwright has been good for this club as well is as much of a problem and reason for why the club is in the position it's at than anything else.
 
APN_EFC said:
I dont know why football clubs never manage their managers

Arsenal is a good comparison - they have a brilliant manager in Wenger, who about 7 years ago needed to be guided on what to do next . Someone should have told him to get in new coaches, and change the dynamic.

Similarly, Koeman might have worked, or even Martinez, if they had been line managed. Martinez could have just worked with a defensive, or balanced focus, and Koeman with a 'football philosophy' and transfer policy.

The DOF can NEVER be the boss of the manager, and there's clearly a rubbish hierarchy, and no clear sense on where you have to report to.

Moshiri is the boss, I think, but his day to day rep should be the CHief Executive, the boss of the DoF and Manager.
Moshiri needs to bring in:

1) Football and Sports experts on the board
2) a proper Chief Executive
3) A football philosophy
4) A broom sweeping through the club, with grass roots and First team all meeting in the middle with proper coaching etc
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Because the average tenure of a manager is so short, clubs can effectively have to 'start again' every couple of years when a new manager comes in with his own ideas, different to the last incumbent. Whilst this is great for footballers, agents, and the media, unless a club is super rich it's not good for them. A director of football has to be the one to do exactly that, direct the football at the club to overcome the lack of continuity caused by continually replacing managers. To me, the DOF should be in charge of the manager.
 

“I’m delighted to confirm Sam as our new manager. His strong leadership will bring great motivation and get the best out of players. Sam understands the long-term ambitions we have for this great Club and I know he is a man who gives it his all and is focused 24 hours a day on the Club."

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