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brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
All undesirables are equal in Downing Street it would appear.
At the Home Office, it would seem some are more equal than others.
It's funny that because the Conservative party were never shy about taking Russian money.
Maybe Boris was turned down for a loan off Alisher Usmanov. Maybe one of our resident Tories can shed some light on this...
Maybe Boris was turned down for a loan off Alisher Usmanov. Maybe one of our resident Tories can shed some light on this...
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Stevie V (90s reference for you youngsters out there)
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Its mad how since 1999, there has been no transparent and clear Everton owner, they have been either shadow owners/investors or front men for other people but they have all been invited into the club to keep one man in a position of power
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
I wonder what changed in 1999
Blue peter
Player Valuation: £35m
Well we weren’t in Space like that 1970s Gerry Anderson show promised us! I was going to sue the BBC for false advertising! Instead we got super Bill
Simon Goodley againWell...... Exactly.
Bang on queue.
Oligarch funded Everton football club while barred from UK
Exclusive: Alisher Usmanov’s backing for club while refused entry to UK raises questions about Premier League governancewww.theguardian.com
Got a deathwish for this club him , like a dog with a bone.
Some quotes from Brands Interview...
"...Yet things did not go as planned at Everton – Officially owned by British-Iranian businessman Farhad Moshiri, although oligarch Alisher Usmanov is closely involved in the background, according to The Guardian.
Despite a good relationship with club chairman Bill Kenwright – 'Indy' he called Brands, the chairman thought he resembled Indiana Jones actor Harrison Ford – he stepped down as technical director in December 2021, disillusioned. "Different views" on the policy to be pursued, was the official explanation. Things were going badly for the club and the English media judged harshly. After a 4-1 defeat against city rival Liverpool, Brands even got into a fight with an angry fan.
...Brands was 59 when he left.
...How does working in the Netherlands differ from England?
"It is totally different. The English culture makes fans and media think the manager [the coach] is about transfers. And the owner decides a lot. He wanted Rafael Benítez as coach in 2021, which was not my choice.
"...Benítez wanted Salomon Rondon, which I could not approve. He was already in his 30s, was not on the scouting list, he was not going to bring Everton anything more. Far too high a salary too. I said I thought it was a bad idea."
"...Think of it as a present for the coach, the owner said. Then you are powerless."
But you will be judged on transfers.
"The problem is: there is no patience. Twelve coaches have already been sacked in the Premier League this season. In my second year, Marco Silva was sacked, I tried to prevent that, but it was beyond my control. While I knew: he is a good coach, he is proving that now at Fulham. The owner also stipulated that there should be an experienced successor, while the chairman and I wanted Mikel Arteta. In the end it became Carlo Ancelotti."
What does it do to employees when you are at the mercy of an owner's whims?
"People try to survive. The nasty thing is: in those rounds of layoffs, a lot of good club people often go with them. Physiotherapists, analysts, you name it. I then had to send away people who were good, worked hard. That is difficult. And it doesn't work either. The first few years I still had the idea that I could change something at Everton. But that didn't work out."
Phone calls telling the Coach
Brands cannot go into too much detail "out of respect" for his former employer. But he tells, without being able to name names, about meetings on expensive yachts and phone calls telling the coach who to draft
( Pick ? Does he mean Usmanov was on the yacht AND making calls to Silva ? )
"You can't imagine that world if you haven't seen it yourself," he says.
An extraordinary adventure, but so you couldn't actually do your job. Why do you still look back with pleasure?
"You also get a lot of appreciation. Because I paid attention to the youth, to the structure, that you look beyond transfers and really try to build something. When I first went to watch Young Everton, I got an app from that coach: how fantastic that you are there, I have never experienced that before. I never saw a technical director from other clubs at duels like that either. And we lived beautifully, the football is great."
Doesn't it strike you as cynical that owners treat it like it's their toy?
"They do have the best interests of the club at heart, I think. But I firmly believe that you can achieve something with good policy. They think: I'm pumping money into it, then it must produce success quickly, right? But in the Premier League, everyone has a lot of money.
Last but not least...
"The crazy thing is: we get more from commercial activities with PSV than Everton, but they get between 130 and 140 million in TV money [against almost 9 million with PSV]. That makes it all a bit easier."
All I can add is - if this is the 'lite version' and he can't 'Name Names' or by inference - tell more, then it should be a revelation...by why should we be surprised at that
"...Yet things did not go as planned at Everton – Officially owned by British-Iranian businessman Farhad Moshiri, although oligarch Alisher Usmanov is closely involved in the background, according to The Guardian.
Despite a good relationship with club chairman Bill Kenwright – 'Indy' he called Brands, the chairman thought he resembled Indiana Jones actor Harrison Ford – he stepped down as technical director in December 2021, disillusioned. "Different views" on the policy to be pursued, was the official explanation. Things were going badly for the club and the English media judged harshly. After a 4-1 defeat against city rival Liverpool, Brands even got into a fight with an angry fan.
...Brands was 59 when he left.
...How does working in the Netherlands differ from England?
"It is totally different. The English culture makes fans and media think the manager [the coach] is about transfers. And the owner decides a lot. He wanted Rafael Benítez as coach in 2021, which was not my choice.
"...Benítez wanted Salomon Rondon, which I could not approve. He was already in his 30s, was not on the scouting list, he was not going to bring Everton anything more. Far too high a salary too. I said I thought it was a bad idea."
"...Think of it as a present for the coach, the owner said. Then you are powerless."
But you will be judged on transfers.
"The problem is: there is no patience. Twelve coaches have already been sacked in the Premier League this season. In my second year, Marco Silva was sacked, I tried to prevent that, but it was beyond my control. While I knew: he is a good coach, he is proving that now at Fulham. The owner also stipulated that there should be an experienced successor, while the chairman and I wanted Mikel Arteta. In the end it became Carlo Ancelotti."
What does it do to employees when you are at the mercy of an owner's whims?
"People try to survive. The nasty thing is: in those rounds of layoffs, a lot of good club people often go with them. Physiotherapists, analysts, you name it. I then had to send away people who were good, worked hard. That is difficult. And it doesn't work either. The first few years I still had the idea that I could change something at Everton. But that didn't work out."
Phone calls telling the Coach
Brands cannot go into too much detail "out of respect" for his former employer. But he tells, without being able to name names, about meetings on expensive yachts and phone calls telling the coach who to draft
( Pick ? Does he mean Usmanov was on the yacht AND making calls to Silva ? )
"You can't imagine that world if you haven't seen it yourself," he says.
An extraordinary adventure, but so you couldn't actually do your job. Why do you still look back with pleasure?
"You also get a lot of appreciation. Because I paid attention to the youth, to the structure, that you look beyond transfers and really try to build something. When I first went to watch Young Everton, I got an app from that coach: how fantastic that you are there, I have never experienced that before. I never saw a technical director from other clubs at duels like that either. And we lived beautifully, the football is great."
Doesn't it strike you as cynical that owners treat it like it's their toy?
"They do have the best interests of the club at heart, I think. But I firmly believe that you can achieve something with good policy. They think: I'm pumping money into it, then it must produce success quickly, right? But in the Premier League, everyone has a lot of money.
Last but not least...
"The crazy thing is: we get more from commercial activities with PSV than Everton, but they get between 130 and 140 million in TV money [against almost 9 million with PSV]. That makes it all a bit easier."
All I can add is - if this is the 'lite version' and he can't 'Name Names' or by inference - tell more, then it should be a revelation...by why should we be surprised at that
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
To disagree with you on all points (bar the last two paragraphs) would be naive. Youre spot on.
Your last two paragraphs arent quite right...he made a fortune with investments during the pandemic. His fortune has increased to such an extent during that time that it covers any 'losses' into the club
Well...... Exactly.
Bang on queue.
Oligarch funded Everton football club while barred from UK
Exclusive: Alisher Usmanov’s backing for club while refused entry to UK raises questions about Premier League governance
I take from this that we didnt need to cancel the sponsorship and shouldnt have done so.
Yeah, I was aware his wealth increased (reportedly doubled) since he came onboard, it's still a bit too much of a gamble to fund it himself.
He could do, but it would be ridiculous.
I'm certain it was him and his mate hoping to stick two fingers up at Arsenal. It hasn't exactly worked out.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
If i was him, looking at the numbers i think it makes more sense for him to cover the stadium himself...and then look for investors at a far higher premium once built.
He could easily chuck in another $1bil and still have $2bil+ left (which is where he was publicly when he bought us).
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
@BNJ1878 to follow on from my last post.
The values of premier league clubs are only going to continue to increase. Its a major trophy asset and as were now seeing an arena to put owners and investors on a par with even countries.
Enormous global reach and the Americans will no doubt push for more US exposure before long.
Its really a generational wealth creator as long as your club stays in the league and becomes sustainable.
The values of premier league clubs are only going to continue to increase. Its a major trophy asset and as were now seeing an arena to put owners and investors on a par with even countries.
Enormous global reach and the Americans will no doubt push for more US exposure before long.
Its really a generational wealth creator as long as your club stays in the league and becomes sustainable.
Yep, there's no way he completely bails out now.
I expect he'll push these potential investors for just enough to finish off the stadium, then spend as little as possible to stay afloat.
If he doesn't spend a penny more of his own money, he's shown 100x more ambition that our shitbag of a chairman ever has.
If he wasn't so stupid for keeping them around I'd have sympathy for him.