bizzaro
LOVE GOT JUST THE WAY IT IS #ALWNV
Its obvious to anyone they're just gearing up to their latest attention seeking entitlement campaign.
That tweet spoke volumes about BU
Its obvious to anyone they're just gearing up to their latest attention seeking entitlement campaign.
That tweet spoke volumes about BU
toffee66
Player Valuation: £8m
The "hate" grew out of a series of catastrophic commercial bungles, bungled stadium projects and a steady reduction in transparency and honesty as BK and Elstone increasingly adopted a paranoid bunker mentality in 'relations' with organised fan and shareholder groups. The fan groups were not always blameless but the EFC hierarchy did not handle criticism and scrutiny very professionally.
The entry of Moshiri should change the game. Time and actions will determine to what extent that change is beneficial. For now, at least, both BK and Elstone remain in the game. That is a warning sign for those who have come to distrust them both.
Having said that, we need to move on and look to the future. Constantly harking back to past failures is only remotely useful if it is to make sure lessons have been learned. Otherwise it is just self-indulgent name-calling.
The entry of Moshiri should change the game. Time and actions will determine to what extent that change is beneficial. For now, at least, both BK and Elstone remain in the game. That is a warning sign for those who have come to distrust them both.
Having said that, we need to move on and look to the future. Constantly harking back to past failures is only remotely useful if it is to make sure lessons have been learned. Otherwise it is just self-indulgent name-calling.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
Mate you had a pre-conceived opinion, you posed something based on said opinion and it was totally incorrect, just let it go.
This whole series of posts says a lot more about you than anyone else TBH.
canuckblue
Player Valuation: £50m
Pot kettle black.
joey_macmo
Player Valuation: £35m
You appear to have totally misunderstood, I'm not the person making up totally false accusations about other evertonians nor have I got personal in any way shape or form. I merely suggested that he let his False accusations go unles he comes up with any evidence to back them up.
It also has absolutely zero to do with FFP so I'm mightily confused as to what relevance that has at all.
Watch this space
Player Valuation: £500k
It's only a question
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
I thread banned you.
I wasn't upset with you at all, you were just being gobby in an off-topic way.
Excellent post.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
? lol
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
Can I just go back to my earlier point on fan groups. It seems counter productive to me in any aspect of life to be critical of, and hostile to those who you hope to influence.
So in the case of a fan group, who are you trying to influence - (i) the shareholders and directors/management of the club and (ii) the wider fan base who perhaps hold different views through inertia and ignorance, and those who are just concerned with how we perform week in, week out on the pitch. The wider and deeper a fan group's support the more weight their message carries to the shareholders/directors/management.
The key strategy for fan groups, in my opinion is to have an alignment of interests secured with those in power, and those whom you wish to represent. That can only be achieved by building relationships on both sides, and through careful management of public relations - whilst satisfying in the short term there's little benefit in public point scoring with either constituent party whilst trying to win trust and support.
As in any form of negotiation, a relationship has to be built, trust has to be established and a recognition of a common cause has to be created, then the hard words can be said, privately. To campaign the "hard words" publicly with any of the interested parties without the trust and alignment of interests is a strategy destined to failure with the club and supporters and in my opinion totally counter-productive.
So in the case of a fan group, who are you trying to influence - (i) the shareholders and directors/management of the club and (ii) the wider fan base who perhaps hold different views through inertia and ignorance, and those who are just concerned with how we perform week in, week out on the pitch. The wider and deeper a fan group's support the more weight their message carries to the shareholders/directors/management.
The key strategy for fan groups, in my opinion is to have an alignment of interests secured with those in power, and those whom you wish to represent. That can only be achieved by building relationships on both sides, and through careful management of public relations - whilst satisfying in the short term there's little benefit in public point scoring with either constituent party whilst trying to win trust and support.
As in any form of negotiation, a relationship has to be built, trust has to be established and a recognition of a common cause has to be created, then the hard words can be said, privately. To campaign the "hard words" publicly with any of the interested parties without the trust and alignment of interests is a strategy destined to failure with the club and supporters and in my opinion totally counter-productive.