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Hilary Benn Sacked From The Shadow Cabinet - wider political debate

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SNova said:
How dare he bloody serve his country the little Englander racist!!
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Strange thing to say.


Corby certainly isn't leadership material. I don't find him a particularly likeable person, either. Leaderships requires pragmatism, especially leadership of a major political party. Corbyn coming out last week, for example, and saying that he would have limitless immigration is a mad thing to say. I'm pro-immigration and see it as a mad thing to say - who is he trying to appeal to here?
 
Seanjd said:
Strange thing to say.


Corby certainly isn't leadership material. I don't find him a particularly likeable person, either. Leaderships requires pragmatism, especially leadership of a major political party. Corbyn coming out last week, for example, and saying that he would have limitless immigration is a mad thing to say. I'm pro-immigration and see it as a mad thing to say - who is he trying to appeal to here?
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All you mad people ?........
 

bizzaro said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36633238

It seems that those involved got information that Corbyn's backroom staff were secretly going along with his plan to not properly campaign for Remain.

Even to go as so far as to try and hide the fact in speeches.


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Corbyn office 'sabotaged' EU Remain campaign - sources

And today, some of the most senior figures in the Labour Party are trying to push their leader out too. There have been concerns about Jeremy Corbyn's performance for months and months. But it was his role, or lack of role, in the campaign to keep the UK in the EU, and his sacking of Hilary Benn in the middle of the night, that has given members of the shadow cabinet the final reasons to quit. Several have already gone; as many as half will be gone by the end of the day, I understand.

And documents passed to the BBC suggest Jeremy Corbyn's office sought to delay and water down the Labour Remain campaign. Sources suggest that they are evidence of "deliberate sabotage".

One email from the leader's office suggests that Mr Corbyn's director of strategy and communications, Seumas Milne, was behind Mr Corbyn's reluctance to take a prominent role in Labour's campaign to keep the UK in the EU. One email, discussing one of the leader's speeches, said it was because of the "hand of Seumas. If he can't kill it, he will water it down so much to hope nobody notices it".

A series of messages dating back to December seen by the BBC shows correspondence between the party leader's office, the Labour Remain campaign and Labour HQ, discussing the European campaign. It shows how a sentence talking about immigration was removed on one occasion and how Mr Milne refused to sign off a letter signed by 200 MPs after it had already been approved.

The documents show concern in Labour HQ and the Labour Remain campaign about Mr Corbyn's commitment to the campaign - one email says: "What is going on here?" Another email from Labour Remain sources to the leader's office complains "there is no EU content here - we agreed to have Europe content in it". Sources say they show the leader's office was reluctant to give full support to the EU campaign and how difficult it was to get Mr Corbyn to take a prominent role.

Mr Corbyn has insisted publicly that he campaigned hard to keep the country in the EU and that he made a number of speeches around the country, and attended many campaigning events. But many shadow cabinet ministers believe his performance in the campaign has shown that he is simply not capable of leading the party. One senior figure told me: "People have just had enough and are embarrassed to be part of it." Jeremy Corbyn's team are adamant that he will stand again for the leadership, and they believe the party's members would back him again.
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Yes, I've already read that article at source.
 
I don't really see how he can stay on, if I'm honest. It's interesting, though, that this mess is 100% a result of Tory infighting, yet all media guns are trained on Corbyn.
 
Last one out shut the door and turn the light off. Fuming at Steve Rotherham supporting Corbyn though I suspect it's more to keep in with Burnham who's done the same. Will be writing to Steve today to tell him I'll be ripping up my card and cancelling my DD if Corybn is still in charge on Friday.
 
Wow, just go Corbyn, stop being a child, the people who matter have no faith you can win an Election and rightly so, we could hold an Election every year for 100 years and you still wouldn't get it.

Becoming a farce now.
 

dandydan said:
I can't see him going down to well with all Labour voters.
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It's how to appeal to the knuckle draggers of our society though, a good British soldier in charge will know what to do, what a man he served this 'great' country etc.

Unfortunately I don't think Jarvis wants it, but he'd be perfect for winning votes with the nationalist/UKIP morons.
 
Blue 1 said:
I don't really see how he can stay on, if I'm honest. It's interesting, though, that this mess is 100% a result of Tory infighting, yet all media guns are trained on Corbyn.
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A semi competent leader would've spent the whole time since the election killing them, they've been wide open for it.
 
There are going to be a lot of by-elections when those that resigned, do the honourable thing and resign from their seats because they are at odds with Labour party members. Look forward to seeing their hypocrisy.
 
Blue 1 said:
I don't really see how he can stay on, if I'm honest. It's interesting, though, that this mess is 100% a result of Tory infighting, yet all media guns are trained on Corbyn.
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That's because both Cameron and Corbyn lost the referendum but only one had the decency to resign. The Tories will sort out their differences as quietly as possible. Meanwhile, Labour is tearing itself to bits because Corbyn will not do the decent thing without being forced out kicking and screaming. This of course makes good news for the rags........
 

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