Hilary Benn Sacked From The Shadow Cabinet - wider political debate

[Joey66]

Nope. They were sold at a Momentum fringe event - The World Transformed: Powered by Momentum.

http://www.globaljustice.org.uk/events/world-transformed

yes momentum are in a different building why is that as they rallied the troops to get Jezza elected, straight away as a Labour voter { not any more} I see a party within a party just down the road selling vile stuff jezza going down there for photo opportunities over Trident?????
If Jezza wants to run a party called momentum let him do that under that banner and see how many votes he gets in the next election and leave the real labour party as opposition, he is openely letting them and the awl infritrate the party by a stupid rule of cheap member ship is it £25 a year or £25 per month as my union subs are higher than that!

 

[edge]

I'll say it again, within a decade the Labour Party will look upon the white working class the same way the Democrats do white southerners. Both forgetting their party was set up to represent those same people.

Well we can have the Jewish labour voters for company at least, be just like old times

 

[Joey66]

It's amazing, the once far right (economically) is ruling and that's just sound.

Bloke on the left is leader of the flipping Labour Party and its a cult.

Champagne swilling, tax dodging, people in nice suits with big money screw you on a daily basis and that's just cool.

Bearded allotment owner from North London wants to make sure your NHS works and it's a cult.

Men with their fingers in the private companies building them tell you that we need weapons so deadly that they'd scorch you and then scorch your scorch mark and we all go along and call that moderate behaviour.

Dude points out that is inconsistent with common sense and he's labelled extreme.

Jeremy isn't even on the hard left. Militant would have told him to feck off.

as bad as I despise them they do not propgate nasty literature just down the road connected to the Labour party all this will end in tears just like it did in the 1980's under militant who got expelled!

 

[Milkman]

I'll say it again, within a decade the Labour Party will look upon the white working class the same way the Democrats do white southerners. Both forgetting their party was set up to represent those same people.

Mate, will you please read what Corbyn has said first. He is the most pro-working class leader imaginable.

 

[Joey66]

See Abbot has been at it again, what a tit that woman is, Going on about Brexit voters again while completely forgetting a large proportion of them were Labour voters, the likes of her and Shami Chakrabartir, and Thornberry actually look down on and dislike the core of the traditional white labour working class voter, no way am I voting again for any party that has the likes of them in it.

They will scare more Labour voters off than gain them imo Corbyn and Macdonald make Farage look like an elder british statesman imo
Macdonald last night on newsnight could not answer one question on his speech - over his defence minister who stated over trident it was policy never to accept it was not Labour policy to unilateral get rid of it - Macdonald stated the issue was not over he is running the labour party in my opinion the guy who crashed the GLC a bum if I have ever seen one utterly useless! I know where he needs to stick his Chairman Meow book where the sun don't shine!

 

[Milkman]

Well we can have the Jewish labour voters for company at least, be just like old times

Labour was losing Jewish votes since before Corbyn's time, @edge.

 

[magicjuan]

yes momentum are in a different building why is that as they rallied the troops to get Jezza elected, straight away as a Labour voter { not any more} I see a party within a party just down the road selling vile stuff jezza going down there for photo opportunities over Trident?????
If Jezza wants to run a party called momentum let him do that under that banner and see how many votes he gets in the next election and leave the real labour party as opposition, he is openely letting them and the awl infritrate the party by a stupid rule of cheap member ship is it £25 a year or £25 per month as my union subs are higher than that!

When the labour party was infiltrated? You mean in the late 80s and early 90s by Blair, Brown and Mandelson I take it?

How about 'Progress' and their funding from new labour supporters?

If you want factionalism, the labour party has always had variances of degrees towards the left, in the very same way that the Tories have factions such as the 1922 committee.

If everybody agreed on everything then you have fascism.

Let Progress form a party, they have less members and as such are the actual Judean People's Front in this case...

 

[magicjuan]

My favourite Dianne Abbot moment was when she used £12,000 of public money to commission this portraint of herself.

"Squat's happenin' ladies?"

 

[Joey66]

Labour was losing Jewish votes since before Corbyn's time, @edge.

They will hemorrhage votes to UKIP the way they are going, - as for holding the conference in Liverpool fair enough LBC went out on the streets to ask about the religion of football in the city - backgroung music walk on every one interviewed at the conference, were Liverpool fans Everton mentioned once!

 

[Joey66]

When the labour party was infiltrated? You mean in the late 80s and early 90s by Blair, Brown and Mandelson I take it?

How about 'Progress' and their funding from new labour supporters?

If you want factionalism, the labour party has always had variances of degrees towards the left, in the very same way that the Tories have factions such as the 1922 committee.

If everybody agreed on everything then you have fascism.

Let Progress form a party, they have less members and as such are the actual Judean People's Front in this case...

You can spout Blair/ Brown had power for 9 years when Corbyn has power for that time spout ok!

 

[Mountfield1985]

Mate, will you please read what Corbyn has said first. He is the most pro-working class leader imaginable.

Think he was talking about the party in general there, not specifically JC.

 

[magicjuan]

They said that about the militant tendency group in the 1980's with Derek Hatton - the leader then stood and demeaned him at the Labour conference leader Neil Kinnock his famous phrase od shouting and pointing at him saying how despicable he was of redundancy notices being delivered in taxis to council workers around the city Hatton was later expelled from the party Evertonian or not quite rightly he was an ex fireman who joined the council in a pair of jeans , and left in an armani suit as an alleged deputy leader who was really running the council destroyed the beautiful botanic Gardens in Liverpool, because the orchid growers would not go on a one day strike - A court case pursued for victimisation as skilled orchid growers were put out on lawn mowers an historic building demolished allegedly on H&S grounds.
I used to visit there it was beautiful rare plant collections form all over the world great socialism!

Champagne Socialists they were called, and expelled, despite the support of a large portion of the city at the time.

then came Blair et al, in suits, drinking champagne..... a party within a party...champions of the right.

blair, Thatcher's greatest achievement.

 

[magicjuan]

You can spout Blair/ Brown had power for 9 years when Corbyn has power for that time spout ok!

You've lost me there?

 

[Joey66]

You've lost me there?

Easily lost arnt you when your new Labour movement gets 9 years of power in government then spout about how good Jezza is - I would have thought businesses were ready to ship out after that Macdonald speech the stock market tumbled yesterday I wonder why!

I am glad interlectuals are doing the Brexit and not that angry mob!

 

[Joey66]

Think he was talking about the party in general there, not specifically JC.

Its just sad to see the Labour party being torn apart by a guy who shoiuld have never been put on the ballot paper!