2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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Look at the spin even in super slow motion, it's a freak event, a perfect storm. I reckon most keepers would've done the same and probably get the same outcome. If Van dijk hadn't sliced it, it would've gone the other side of the bar but the balls gripped and come back.


No, most keepers would have a palmed it over the bar and conceded a corner. But has @davek is saying his arrogance overtook his ability and he somehow thought he could catch it
 

I don't know about twitter, but I don't think it's abuse. Nobody is hating of him the same way we are towards Klopp. It's just the endless defeats to those lot and especially in the way we lost today have taken a toll of people including myself. I'm annoyed at him for making a mistake, because I think it was out of cockiness. But then again, he made numerous great saves against Chelsea the other week and in other games. It's just a shame he makes a mistake, in the 96th minute at Anfield. If he made a similar mistake against Newcastle, nobody would be that arsed.
It was a freak goal, that 9 times out of 10 would result in it going over the bar, but fell to Origi. However I do still worry about his making mistakes in big games, missing chances against Arsenal and Man United cost us. Personally I'd give him a rest for Newcastle, just so he can get his confidence back, because we don't want him trying to hard to make up for it and messing up. Supporters are fickle, players and managers go from being hero to zero overnight. I haven't seen anyone saying anything as serious as what the RS say about their players. Lukaku got a lot of abuse from our fans, even though he had an excellent scoring record. Look at how many trophies Wenger won and the amount of abuse he got from their fans.
I didn't claim he was getting "abused" mate. Just that people were being well OTT online and chatting wham that they'd never say in a face-to-face conversation with anyone because normal people don't act this way in those circumstances. The anonymity of the internet has provided a platform for a lot of keyboard warriors to behave in a certain way that i find absolutely pathetic.

Drop Pickford for who? Skekelenburg?! So you want us to go into a game with as big a disadvantage as possible and risk even more points because Pickford just cost us one? Pickford might be cocky at times and he was indeed responsible for losing us that game yesterday but he's also 1000% far better then anyone else we have in goal. I'll be furious if we drop him for a substandard keeper just to satisfy some of our online fanbase who are unable to look past one calamitous mistake.
 
Horrendous mistake and one that will be hard to ever get over in a footballing sense. He needs to make sure something even close to this never happens again.

As fans we can accept a simple mistake, but that was just disgusting. The ball was going on to the back of the bar and out, or at best (for them) on to the top of the bar so if he'd have just tipped it over we'd have understood why. To hesitate and actually put the ball back in play in front of goal has to go down as the worst error i've ever seen supporting Everton.

But some perspective is also needed. Pickford on the whole has been excellent for us, and even yesterday he made some top saves that prevented us from being behind anyway. He is going to become one of the best around, he just needs to hold his hands up, move on now and ensure he never does it again.
 
Pickford is taking all the flack and most of it is entirely justified.

But was his howler any worse than Mina heading wide with the whole goal gaping?

If we were taking our chances up the other end, the odd mistake by Pickers would not have such devastating consequences.

Agree mate.

It's an awful mistake but at the same time, our luck is just not going to change.

It's got f all to do with mentality now when it comes to going there. So the 'ambishun lad' brigade need to wind it in. We had our chances to win yesterday and didn't take them. It's a problem that the players need to fix because that's what's going to get us to the next level.

Pickford shouldn't have done what he did but if he'd have left it entirely then people would have been saying why leave a ball to drop on your crossbar in such a big game. If he'd done what he tried to do (or at least got caught in between doing) and tipped it over, for them to just score from the resulting corner, he'd have got pelters.

We're utterly cursed there, there's no two ways about it.
 
It was a daft thing to do but there is still a once-in-a-lifetime amount of luck for it to take two bounces and land perfectly for origi.

I guess on the flipside he's made similar errors that went unpunished. Had to happen sometime.
 

Horrendous mistake and one that will be hard to ever get over in a footballing sense. He needs to make sure something even close to this never happens again.

As fans we can accept a simple mistake, but that was just disgusting. The ball was going on to the back of the bar and out, or at best (for them) on to the top of the bar so if he'd have just tipped it over we'd have understood why. To hesitate and actually put the ball back in play in front of goal has to go down as the worst error i've ever seen supporting Everton.

But some perspective is also needed. Pickford on the whole has been excellent for us, and even yesterday he made some top saves that prevented us from being behind anyway. He is going to become one of the best around, he just needs to hold his hands up, move on now and ensure he never does it again.

I'm sorry, but if a goalkeeper leaves a ball to drop on his bar in the last second of a massive game, then there'd be outrage.

I'm not excusing the mistake. It's an abysmal one. But whatever he did, there's a risk.

Look at the spin on the ball. Look at the fact it somehow happens to bobble onto the crossbar and down straight to the head of Origi.

It's honestly outrageous bad luck. 9/10 times if Pickford makes that error but the ball doesn't have the spin on it to come back in. But of course it's us, at Anfield, so it does.
 
Chin up Jordan lad

Made some cracking saves during the game itself

What we can't do now as a fan base is turn on him. He needs to get the biggest cheer on Wednesday when his name is read out so that his confidence can start to repair itself

Unfortunately Mikey with our fans I just feel we have some who are waiting for mistakes to happen to get their 'I told you so' signs out. It's weird.

Lad's a great goalkeeper. He's not world class yet but we're not a world class team and, frankly, world class goalkeepers make mistakes. It's how they come back from them.

That mistake he made yesterday would not result in a goal against any other team. But against that shower, of course it friggin does.

End of the day if we take our chances we could have been out of sight (not to say that Liverpool won't say the same).
 
He hasn't tried to catch he tried to tip it, the slice had put a load of backspin on it and it's spun back in to play. Look at the ball spinning, a normal kick instead of a slice and the ball would've been tipped out.
It looks to me like he misjudged the position of the crossbar and ball flight. It was the curl of his fingers that brought the ball back into play, sandwiched between the ball and crossbar. The ball was nearly over the crossbar when he touched it and brought it back.

I agree with trying to be positive but I think we should try and honestly describe what seems to have happened. I suppose only Pickford knows why he used two hands rather than a single hand which most keepers would use for tipping over. I think he would have better balance if he had used one hand. He fell over rather than stood up to challenge Origi, after he had kept the ball in play.
 

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