2018/19 Jordan Pickford

[BlueToff]

He was the player who won us a point, ultimately, v Chelsea.

His penalty save helped us claim the three points against Palace.

His save against Saints kept Ings out (granted from his mistake).

Had he not done what he did yesterday, he'd have made the crucial save that would have helped us get a point.

My point is, he'll win us more points than he'll lose us. He's a good goalkeeper. He cocked up massively and now he needs to come back from that.

 

[McBain]

He was the player who won us a point, ultimately, v Chelsea.

His penalty save helped us claim the three points against Palace.

His save against Saints kept Ings out (granted from his mistake).

Had he not done what he did yesterday, he'd have made the crucial save that would have helped us get a point.

My point is, he'll win us more points than he'll lose us. He's a good goalkeeper. He cocked up massively and now he needs to come back from that.

Good post.

 

[Furey1878]

Jord.....

 

[Toast]

The words that will have been said are that the boys will all be behind him. He knows he made a mistake. They'll analyse it with the coaches.

There will have been no uproar. Nobody trying to throttle him.

Because they're professionals and a tight-knit group. There's nothing to clear the air about. It's an error that he will have to put behind him.

Nah.
I want plates of sandwiches and cups launched everywhere.
These lads are too soft and that's why we are losers.
Alan Ball, Peter Reid etc wouldn't have given him a pat on the head and told him he's ace.

 

[bicycleheader]

I hope that in a couple seasons time I can shake the image I have of him as a Joe Hart clone, and can start to warm to him

I do think he wanted to stop that ball with his palms and then catch it and he should have just tipped it over. Just IMO

 

[McBain]

Nah.
I want plates of sandwiches and cups launched everywhere.
These lads are too soft and that's why we are losers.
Alan Ball, Peter Reid etc wouldn't have given him a pat on the head and told him he's ace.

Neville Southall v Watford 1982.

Wonder if he got a bollocking for that one!

 

[BlueToff]

Nah.
I want plates of sandwiches and cups launched everywhere.
These lads are too soft and that's why we are losers.
Alan Ball, Peter Reid etc wouldn't have given him a pat on the head and told him he's ace.

Weirdly enough, Reidy's best mates Keys and Gray are the ones saying 'Everton have gone backwards' because Fat Sam got a draw there last year.

It's got F all to do with the players being soft. The manager has instilled belief in this group, and that's why I'm backing them to bounce back. Silva's presser said it all yesterday. He was seething, because he knows that we let Liverpool off the hook.

(Not sure whether you were being entirely serious about the soft part, but went with it anyway...)

 

[Toast]

Neville Southall v Watford 1982.

Wonder if he got a bollocking for that one!

He conceded 5 goals against Liverpool in 82 and was dropped and then loaned out.

 

[spectateur]

Good Grief. State of these comments.

Exactly, who'd be a goalie? If those two highly paid pros hadn't misses their (easy) chances to score - the goalie's cock-up/bad luck in the last minute would hardly have mattered.

 

[McBain]

He conceded 5 goals against Liverpool in 82 and was dropped and then loaned out.

So Pickfords 5 x the keeper at the same age?

 

[Jacob]

Pickford needs to take a step back in the wake of yesterdays clanger. All keepers make them - some more damaging than others and its the frequency of them that determines the severity of the problem. Hes a very good goalkeeper in general. If he cuts out the hyped up soundbites and frequent over complicating of style, he could take steps to become a great one. However he needs to recognise the difference between confidence and arrogance as hes not inclined to self examine and a degree of humility would not go amiss especially after the depth charge of his "clanger" yesterday. Ive seen a hell of a lot of derby day horrors over the last 50 years which enables me to gauge yesterday from the positive rather than dwelling on the last couple of minutes play. We played impressively with a verve I'd thought long gone. Pickford cocked up and we can get over it...as long as he learns from it....again.

 

[BlueToff]

I hope that in a couple seasons time I can shake the image I have of him as a Joe Hart clone, and can start to warm to him

I do think he wanted to stop that ball with his palms and then catch it and he should have just tipped it over. Just IMO

He's said he tried to tip it over mate. He got it wrong. Evidently there was some hesitation and he's kind of being caught in between and then the spin of the ball and fluke of where it's landed meant that what's happened, happened. That's the RS for you.

Not sure why people struggle to warm to him but that's fair enough. I just don't see how anybody can deny that he's been very good for us since his arrival. That mistake is probably the worst of his career and it's come at the worst time possible for us, but y'know, as Nev Southall has just tweeted, s!!! happens!

 

[Toast]

So Pickfords 5 x the keeper at the same age?

If you believe most on here, you certainly would think so.

 

[BlueToff]

Pickford needs to take a step back in the wake of yesterdays clanger. All keepers make them - some more damaging than others and its the frequency of them that determines the severity of the problem. Hes a very good goalkeeper in general. If he cuts out the hyped up soundbites and frequent over complicating of style, he could take steps to become a great one. However he needs to recognise the difference between confidence and arrogance as hes not inclined to self examine and a degree of humility would not go amiss especially after the depth charge of his "clanger" yesterday. Ive seen a hell of a lot of derby day horrors over the last 50 years which enables me to gauge yesterday from the positive rather than dwelling on the last couple of minutes play. We played impressively with a verve I'd thought long gone. Pickford cocked up and we can get over it...as long as he learns from it....again.

That's all well and good but I don't think his mistake yesterday had anything to do with confidence or arrogance. It wasn't like his kick v West Ham, for example.

It was a looping, spinning ball that he misjudged. It's a clanger, and there's no excuse, but in reality what we actually needed him to be there was his usual confident self. He second-guessed himself and look what happened. Had he been confident, he'd have let it hit the bar and bounce out. But he knew the magnitude of the situation and tried to compensate, and got it wrong.

 

[BlueToff]

He conceded 5 goals against Liverpool in 82 and was dropped and then loaned out.

And then went on to become the greatest goalkeeper that Britain has produced.

Obviously, not saying Pickford will do the same.