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keioc and sos working together ?

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chicoazul said:
He was just pointing it out, and he's right.

Thanks for Ducking and Tom coming on to talk it through though, davek will be made up.
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Yeaaah, but we like our little imaginations to run loose every so often.


And also to be fair, it's the most likely thing to happen
 
best little spaniard said:
Yeaaah, but we like our little imaginations to run loose every so often.


And also to be fair, it's the most likely thing to happen
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No problems with that. I think a refurb will happen but I base that on the clubs comments, the obvious choice would be the Park End to start with due to the footprint.

Neiler said:
* Links daily mail rumour!
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I always, always put a disclaimer on a Daily Mail article which I rarely link. In fact, wait there, how many snide rumours do you see me linking you horrid creature?

Get out of KEIOC's arse too lid x
 

Neiler's been won over. We've had an intevention and he's not supping that Klub Kool Aid anymore.

<shakes fist at 'the man'>
 
chicoazul said:
No problems with that. I think a refurb will happen but I base that on the clubs comments, the obvious choice would be the Park End to start with due to the footprint.
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That's the spirit. Just throw in some made up costings and you're there.
 
best little spaniard said:
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Hang on. You said earlier we could do the park end for £25 mil.


Sod it, it's all too confusing
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Look, I'm doing my best to report what I recall of somebody else's very rough outline plans. I'm neither a stadium design expert nor particularly "in the know".

As I understand it (which at any point could turn out to be completely wrong), the whole stand and hotel/conference/car park development at the Park End could be done for in the region of £75m. When you do a development like that, I'm sure there are savings to be made on each part by doing the whole thing together. Rebuilding the stand alone, or building a similar hotel development without the stand may not be as cheap.

As the hotel and corporate dining facilities, lounges, etc are integrated with the stand, part of the construction cost is associated with them. If we want to get to keep any of the income from pre/post-match dining or any other events held in them, we'd need to contribute more than the £25m, otherwise the developer would keep all that revenue. What % we contribute (and therefore what % of revenue we get to keep) would depend on many factors...not least what we could afford and (I assume) how much of a risk the developer perceived the project to be.

To repeat, based on Trevor's presentation, I don't think the stand on it's own can be done (at least to a decent/suitable standard) for £25m, but that could be the club's minimum investment in the redevelopment at the Park End. Of course minimum investment would yield minimum gain.
 

chicoazul said:
No problems with that. I think a refurb will happen but I base that on the clubs comments, the obvious choice would be the Park End to start with due to the footprint.



I always, always put a disclaimer on a Daily Mail article which I rarely link. In fact, wait there, how many snide rumours do you see me linking you horrid creature?

Get out of KEIOC's arse too lid x
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Your a bad tribalfootballer, its nothing to be ashamed of mate!

Never to late to jump on the bandwagon - Choo Choo - Lieness - Transport Plan - Planning Enquiry - Cow Shed - Neighbourhood Watch!

*In best Father Jack accent!
 
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Duckling said:
Look, I'm doing my best to report what I recall of somebody else's very rough outline plans. I'm neither a stadium design expert nor particularly "in the know".

As I understand it (which at any point could turn out to be completely wrong), the whole stand and hotel/conference/car park development at the Park End could be done for in the region of £75m. When you do a development like that, I'm sure there are savings to be made on each part by doing the whole thing together. Rebuilding the stand alone, or building a similar hotel development without the stand may not be as cheap.

As the hotel and corporate dining facilities, lounges, etc are integrated with the stand, part of the construction cost is associated with them. If we want to get to keep any of the income from pre/post-match dining or any other events held in them, we'd need to contribute more than the £25m, otherwise the developer would keep all that revenue. What % we contribute (and therefore what % of revenue we get to keep) would depend on many factors...not least what we could afford and (I assume) how much of a risk the developer perceived the project to be.

To repeat, based on Trevor's presentation, I don't think the stand on it's own can be done (at least to a decent/suitable standard) for £25m, but that could be the club's minimum investment in the redevelopment at the Park End. Of course minimum investment would yield minimum gain.
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Duckers mate, your responses will be manna from heaven for the clique on here. I had all this when I was wiping the floor with them two years ago on a massive 'Kirkby Thread' (all 1,450,000 pages of it). They'll have you talking about pizzas and pasties in about two weeks time. You'll be a gibbering idiot.

Log off now, for the love of God.
 

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